hahah we posted at the same time IPEsq!
I do not have any advise about the beer but I had great success adding 1oz salt and 1 oz electrolytes to my horses feed per day in addition of the OneAC. No sure if you are doing this already or not. My horse has now been regularly sweating for 2 years and while I have discontinued using OneAC, I continue to use the salt and electrolytes daily and he has been fine. Good luck!
I added beer, electrolytes and a double dose of One AC to my ponyās feed last year and it did absolutely nothing all summer. It didnāt matter what kind ā I even got her good beer, āwastingā Fat Tire on her, much to my husbandās chagrin. She didnāt sweat at all. Trying the Chinese herbs and Let-M-Sweat this year.
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Try herbs- New Xiang Ru San. You have to have your vet order them. In Florida, I can get them from this place http://www.tcvm.com/
Guiness or a dark beer is what people told me. Horse loved it, but it didnāt do a darn thing as far as I could tell. 1AC did not work either. Acupuncture did bring it back and the herbs kept my boy going. You need to start treatment BEFORE it gets hot. Good luck![/QUOTE]
I second the herbs + acupuncture. As much as I (still doā¦) thought it was voodoo, it worked. Supposedly weāre not supposed to need the herbs anymore, after her being on them all last summer, but it got pretty warm recently and I didnāt see much sweating. 
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I did put him on the scale today to see how much he weighs, 1350 lb. Which means I have been underdosing him by a teaspoon. I upped the dose so Iāll wait and see what that does. ![/QUOTE]
I found out by trial and error that my guy responds to a higher dose than would be indicated for his weight. He had an inadequate response to his dose by weight and was still struggling just standing in his stall under a fan in the heat of July. I added another teaspoon. Boom. Sweaty horse. As time has gone on I have learned that he can start off the summer at his dose by weight, but I will have to double the dose if it gets and stays hot and muggy. So it normally goes normal dose for April through June, double dose July and August, and then I can taper down September and October. I also add electrolytes to his morning and evening grain.
Other than that, I have always heard dark, hoppy beer.
Interesting! I upped the dose on Monday, but here in Missouri it got cool again so I canāt say yet if the upped dose helps or not. He did sweat today, a totally normal amount! But it was also about 45 degrees when I rode him. Somewhere between 60 and 75 degrees some kind of flip is switched in his body and bam! Not a drop of sweat. Its bizarre. Right now he is on 3 teaspoons and Iām also doing electrolytes when its warm. When it gets hot again (and its Missouri, so who knows when!) Iāll wait and see what he does and then try a dark beer if we arenāt sweating. I graduate college in May and am hoping to get a job in the south (fingers crossed)! He needs to figure out this whole sweating thing or else he will be miserable.
Side note, 1AC is so expensive, especially now that he is on 3 teaspoons! I refer to it as my horse crack because I swear its more expensive than crack (not that Iād know)!
Maybe a Black IPA if youāre looking for both dark and hoppy. Not sure how cost effective that would be. Perhaps you could get into micro brewing? :lol:
On a more practical note: Shiner might be a good balance of cost:darkness:hops. Do yāall drink Shiner outside of Texas?
True Sweat
Am in Houston and the summer is oppressive for everyone. My guy was supposed to be a nice sales horse for a kid due to temperment and sense of humor. Totally takes a joke. But he quit sweating at 3, except for the summer in Tahoe at 5. He does not shut down until the humidity and temperature are both about 90. Canāt sell a horse with this problem to a kid - summer is when they get to ride!
Have had decent luck with True Sweat. Early morning work only.Some dampness.Over the years Iāve spent a fortune on accupuncture, beer, One AC, Perspirade and others. Have not tried anything like a patch.
The real difficulty is with BOs that see the blowing and freak out. He has never been depressed, run a temp, skipped a meal, but itās not ānormalā looking, and bothers people who have not managed it.
Am trying to retire him in a cool climate and am having trouble getting call backs. Any of you iced in people want a sweet horse, at least from May to October?
I did not have luck with One AC. I used Let Em Sweat and the darkest, cheapest beer I could find. I did find that it was better to start the Let Em Sweat early in the season before the nonsweating became full blown.
And FWIW the horse did eventually go back to sweating a few years later.
I had some results with the Let-M-Sweat last summer. I didnt see any results with One AC, salt, electrolytes, and a variety of beer. Going to try acupuncture and herbs this summer.
Resurrecting a zombie thread because the heat is just starting andā¦
my gynecologist gave gave me two non-estrogen hot flash treatments to try before we resort to estrogens. Iām trying a black cohosh based med first. The other optionās active ingredient? Hops.
the black cohosh horse pills do go down well with a nice brown ale!
One AC did nothing for my mare, neither did the patches. I use platinum refresh and she sweats completely normally now. When we did give her beer we gave her Guiness, it helped a little but it was nothing to write home about.
Horsesinhaiti, that is really interesting. Sure doesnāt seem like it would be the hops that works for horses if they are giving them to you. I have had terrible problems with hot flashes and get the full body sweat type. Yuck. I also have a horse with anhidrosis. Too bad we canāt even each other out somehow.
My horse had decent results with Let 'M Sweat last year. I have started him on it already this year, but itās too soon to tell how itās going to go. I also feed salt daily and am adding electrolytes for the warm season. Might have to add beer as well, so I am interested to see whether or not I have to pony up for the expensive stuff or if he can be a hipster horse and drink PBR.
As some others have said, Guinness. I have no direct experience but know several top, very respected TB trainers that swear by. Here and abroad.
Pour it into a bowl and let it sit and go flat, get the fizz out. Though some people just poor it over their feed right out of the bottle. Suppose it depends on the horseās preference, warm and flat, or cold and fizzy.
Beer is great for anydrosis in humans, but given that a 1350 pound horse likely outweighs itās human analog by about a factor of 8-9 then how much beer would it take to make a difference? Should you go non-alcoholic or does the alcohol content matter? Would a drunk 1350 pound horse be a happy drunk or mean drunk?
Itās unlikely a pint beer will make much difference if the horse needs a gallon of water. I donāt see how a pint of beer, by itself, will simulate the urge to drink. Now a bag of Fritos, with lots of salt, might. Or might not.
Some horses are more sensitive to heat than others. That creates a management issue for the human. Iād stick with proven equine products before haring off into the world of folklore.
G.
How funny that this thread got bumped back up two years later! I just ordered the horse some Platinum Refresh last night to give that one a try since Iāve heard good things.
For those that were curious, the beer did nothing. I got Guinness and nothing. Iāve tried pretty much everything for this horse and he still wonāt sweat. I just try to be very careful with his management in the summer now. Inside with a fan during the day and out at night, hosing before and and after I ride, riding in the evenings, sometimes just giving him time off in the hottest parts of the summer.
Iām hoping the Platinush Refresh might help, but am not holding out hope. For those who have used it was dose did you use to get results? Also, since this thread got bumped up again, Iāll share a research study my horse is participating in, Iām sure they need more horses! https://ufl.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0cw310YovqWSQOp Its by University of Florida looking for the genetics behind anhidrosis.
Hi Guilherme. This thread is two years old, although I still have not found a solution. The reason I was looking into āthe world of folkloreā is because I had tried every proven equine product on the market already. Also, just wanted to share that anhidrosis has little to do with how much water a horse drinks; many anhidrosis horses including mine drink a completely normal amount of water in the summer. The condition has to do with an inability to produce sweat and properly regulate the body temperature in hot weather. The issue goes beyond not drinking water or being more sensitive to the heat.
If the failure to sweat is the result of failure to drink you have one cause; if itās a metabolic failure you have another. I guess itās possible to have both. Every now and the you get a ānon-drinker.ā And in some places youāll find all sorts of āfolkloreā remedies ranging from beer through GatorAid to Mountain Dew, usually aimed at inducing the horse to drink. If I misread the causationā¦well, itās tax time and Iām about half insane from that!!! 
Sorry about that.
If you think you have a metabolic issue then youāll have too like to an equine internist of some sort to see what the cause might be. That will mean a proper SOAP and could cost some money. Do Friesans have this problem at a rate higher than other breeds? Iāve got that rattling around in the back of my head, mostly from talk with a couple of our local hunt members who have had Friesans and got rid of them as they did not do well in the hunt field here in East TN, at least in the warmer months of cubbing or the very end of hunt season. And then I might be mis-remembering all together.
Best of luck finding a solution to the problem.
G.
Glad to hear that. I am on day 2 of 10. Do the effects really last for the whole
summer?
Thank you for sharing the link to this study. I wasnāt aware of it and will be participating.
I switched my horse from One AC to Platinum Refresh starting this week. One AC was working for him provided that I fed it with electrolytes and adjusted his dose in line with the weatherr; I double-dose during the most humid months. He is sort of notorious for metabolizing substances at skewed rates for his weight, so this is not shocking. Platinum Refresh is basically One AC plus electrolytes in one package. Since this is the time of year that I can experiment without worrying about putting him into a non-sweating crisis, it was the right time to see if it might help him more.
Incidentally, my Irish horse turned up his nose at Guinness.
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