What next for California Chrome?

I imagine a well deserved rest would be in order, not only because of the back to back races, but to let his foot heal.

What might be the next logical set of races for him to do if the owners want to continue racing him and not retire him directly to the breeding shed?

No, he will not go straight to the breeding shed, unless he has some career ending injury.

The next logical race would be the Haskell at Monmouth. However, being that he is a west coast horse they might take a different tack with him.

The BC with probably one prep before.

Now there’s talk about a re-match between To and CC - oh help.

But I do think it is a shame when good athletes are retired to the breeding shed so early. Takes away the sport in Sport.

Rest and pasture time, then aiming at the BC.

http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-stakes-california-chrome-rest

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Now there’s talk about a re-match between To and CC - oh help.

But I do think it is a shame when good athletes are retired to the breeding shed so early. Takes away the sport in Sport.[/QUOTE]

I agree about the retirement thing. It is a shame when good horses retire immediately after a few high profile wins.

Regarding a “re-match”, I hadn’t heard that, but I can only assume it’s various entities trying to drum up more advertisement and betting revenue. I can understand why they might say that, but that doesn’t mean I go along with it.
It would be like asking a woman when she is planning to have her next child after she’s just given birth.

Let all the horses have a well deserved break and then let the chips fall where they may.

Glad to hear his injury wasn’t more serious. They sure were able to get him on a plane fast. I imagine his “people” will be glad to get back to SoCal.

Before his injury, Art mentioned that Chrome might possibly run in the Pacific Classic as prep for the BC … but now a few weeks in pasture sounds very good. (although not sure where they’re going to find pasture in California with this drought. Wonder if he’ll go spend some time at Harris Ranch where he was raised.)

He also said at the time that it was the owners’ intention to run him as a 4 yo.

(for whoever it was who asked … the ownership of CC, his dam and his two full sisters is split 70% Perry and 30% Coburn.)

I doubt the horse leaves California unless there’s so much purse offered they can’t turn it down.

I’m left with the bad taste of “take-my-toys-and-go-home” after yesterday’s comments. While I’d love to see CC prove himself again against top quality in the Travers and maybe even JC Gold Cup, I see them staying at home to prepare for the BC. Which, unfortunately, will only instigate more “He isn’t such a good horse after all” sentiment.

I was the one who asked about the ownership split. Where is Perry in all of this?

Perry is a very reserved man - doesn’t want the limelight at all. He is the one who spent months figuring out Love the Chase’s “date” and who emailed Art with a list of races to run California Chrome in to prep for the Derby when they first sent Chrome down to SoCal. (all of which he did wind up running in … Alan has said that he and Art were a bit surprised to see that happen.)

He has let it be known he doesn’t want to give interviews. He did say - when discussing the offer they received before the Derby to sell 51% interest in Chrome that not only did he and Coburn not want to sell, that doing so would not have been fair to Art, since the buyers would have wanted to move to a different trainer and make all decisions about his care, jockey, etc.

I read earlier that he has owned a couple of other horses before Love the Chase, all of whom were (are?) trained by Steve Sherman in the bay area, Art’s other son. That’s how he made the connection with Art for California Chrome.

eta … and the nasal strips were his idea, not the trainer’s. (Alan has given some pretty funny responses when asked about them … none of their other horses wears one.)

Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone have an idea what Lucky Pulpit’s stud fee might be? I think it is listed as private for 2014. Before that, the only thing I’ve ever heard is what the CC camp has mentioned as being $2000 or $2500 (don’t recall which)

It was raised to $10,000 for the last 20 or so mares this season. Haven’t seen anything more. (were they waiting to see what happened with the TC?)

Lucky Pulpit’s owners were reportedly flying in to NY for the Belmont. They live in Idaho. Sounds as if they were considering moving him out from CA.

Art’s press conference from this am… discussing Chrome, and refusing to bite at multiple media attempts to get him to criticize Coburn.

http://www.hrtv.com/videos/art-sherman-press-conference-6814/?VideoCategoryId=0

Sherman seems like a class act and it certainly seems like they’re trying to do right by this horse. He definitely deserves some time off after this campaign. All media comments aside, you can’t deny that they love their horse and seem to do everything they can to put his needs first.

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It was raised to $10,000 for the last 20 or so mares this season. Haven’t seen anything more. (were they waiting to see what happened with the TC?)

Lucky Pulpit’s owners were reportedly flying in to NY for the Belmont. They live in Idaho. Sounds as if they were considering moving him out from CA.

Art’s press conference from this am… discussing Chrome, and refusing to bite at multiple media attempts to get him to criticize Coburn.

http://www.hrtv.com/videos/art-sherman-press-conference-6814/?VideoCategoryId=0[/QUOTE]

That’s what really bothers me about the media - they try to drum up crap to sell copy or boost their ratings. The only difference between mainstream media and the tabloids is how much skin is showing

I would hope that they would try to point him to the Breeder’s Cup, even if there is not as much prestige behind it as winning the Triple Crown.

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I would hope that they would try to point him to the Breeder’s Cup, even if there is not as much prestige behind it as winning the Triple Crown.[/QUOTE]

You’re joking, right? The Triple Crown is a feat but not the end all, be all of horse racing. The Classic is a G1 race with a huge purse, and horses ages 3+. If CC wins the Classic it will be a huge deal.

Somebody wins the classic every year. It is a big deal but not even remotely as big as a TC. In fact the Breeder’s Cup didn’t exist the last time someone won a TC. I imagine if given a choice most people would choose winning a TC over a breeder’s cup race.

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Somebody wins the classic every year. It is a big deal but not even remotely as big as a TC. In fact the Breeder’s Cup didn’t exist the last time someone won a TC. I imagine if given a choice most people would choose winning a TC over a breeder’s cup race.[/QUOTE]

That’s exactly the point that I was trying to make.

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You’re joking, right? The Triple Crown is a feat but not the end all, be all of horse racing. The Classic is a G1 race with a huge purse, and horses ages 3+. If CC wins the Classic it will be a huge deal.[/QUOTE]

I was going to say, am I the only one who remembers Sunday Silence and Easy Goer? The “rematch” in the Classic was a huge deal. Then there were Tiznow’s back to backs, Arcangues making a very very very few bettors VERY happy people, of course Zenyatta’s two runs…Someone wins the Kentucky Derby every year, too, no matter what, but that doesn’t mean no one wants to. Most people would choose a TC, sure, but at this point I begin to join the people saying if Sunday Silence couldn’t do, California Chrome couldn’t do it, can anyone do it? I start to think not. No one’s going to win a TC. Someone’s going to win the Classic. Might as well be him. I mean, no, I don’t consider him and Tonalist rivals–Easy Goer and Sunday Silence was a real rivalry and Easy Goer winning the Belmont almost wasn’t as big a letdown because of the Derby and Preakness run-up. The Classic meet-up was almost as exciting. But seeing him run against the best again and possibly older horses (though I suspect Palace Malice, if they’re smart, will be going for the Dirt Mile, not the Classic and a lot of the best older males are on the turf.) And given IIRC it’s back at Santa Anita why wouldn’t they?

California Chrome wil ship straight from Dubai to Newmarket in England where is next start will be at Royal Ascot in June.
They haven’t said which race his target will be, but I imagine either the Queen Anne G1 over the straight mile course or the 10f Prince of Wales G1.

Pretty ballsy move, but he’ll be stepping into a whole other world of competition there from what he faced on grass in the Hollywood Gold Cup.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/article16702772.html[U]

[/U]California Chrome will take the long way home.After a second-place finish in the $10 million Dubai World Cup, California Chrome will go directly to Newmarket, England, to prepare for a start at Royal Ascot, according to co-owner Perry Martin.
“I’ve talked to (trainer) Art (Sherman) and I’ve decided we are going to Royal Ascot directly from here,” Martin said via e-mail after Saturday’s World Cup in the United Arab Emirates. “We will train at Newmarket were (European champion) Frankel trained. Then, we’ll do our best at Royal Ascot.”
Making only his second start of his 4-year-old season, California Chrome finished second in the World Cup to Prince Bishop, who is owned by Sheikh Hamdan bin Mohammed Al Maktoum. The runner-up effort was still worth $2 million for California Chrome. He is owned by Perry and Denise Martin of Yuba City and Steve and Carolyn Coburn of Topaz Lake, Nev.
[h=1]Related[/h][h=1]Prince Bishop wins Dubai World Cup, California Chrome 2nd[/h]

“We are so proud of Chrome,” Perry Martin added. “With everything against him, he still showed us what a champion he is. Second on this stage is nothing to sneeze at. This is a perfect transition to the international stage.”

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