WHAT was on this judges mind pinning this rider first????

[SpotsNChrome]

I took two riders to arguably the Best local show in these parts. They are polite, efficient, organized, and even in the face of twice the entries they normally see, their upbeat positive attitude really helped when we were getting tired at around 7 pm.

The class was an equitation class. Out of nine riders, there was a rider who either had forgotten her boots,or was too hot to wear them. In any case, there was six inched of skin showing from breeches too short until you got to the red socks, dirty paddock shoes, further called attention to by spurs. Her shirt was handing out of the back of her jacket, her tack dirty, etc. Do I sound like GM yet???

Everyone lines up, and this person is announced as the winner of the class. To make matters worse, she was announced as the winner of the second hack (WTC) ( I was hoping the wrong lead would save us from war) and then Champion of the division!

So help me explain to my student, who, no, shouldn’t have won, but was upset at this get up. Her aggravated feelings revealed that she should have worn her bathing suit that day instead of working so hard.

But now my question to the judge: not only did she insult all the trainers and the riders in the ring, but Where DOES the judge draw a line at attire in an equitation class? Clearly she insulted herself the most. By not letting this rider know that her show attire was not very acceptable, everyone else feels their efforts are worth zilch. If the rider DID forget her boots, to tuck in and clean up, appreciate a judges comment that “I could have pinned you first today, however…”

The shame of it all.

[DMK]

divisible by 3, eh?

Whew… good thing mine only needs to be divisible by 1!

Of course, it also has to sum up to a number divisible by a prime number, which can then be squared to another prime number

[havaklu]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DMK:
divisible by 3, eh?

Whew… good thing mine only needs to be divisible by 1!

Of course, it also has to sum up to a number divisible by a prime number, which can then be squared to another prime number <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And the “nerd” in me comes out and tells you what you already know - all your calculations will work with the number 1 (assuming “another” prime number did not mean a “different” prime number)

[Magnolia]

I remember at an IHSA horseshow one of the other team’s coaches getting mad because one of our riders had medium grey breeches. She actually tried to eliminate her! Her reasoning was that proper attire was paramount to the sport and our rider’s grey breeches clearly were just too dark for the showring!!!(the breeches weren;t that pearl grey, nor were they dark grey - just in between).
However, I think the girl with the missing boots should have either borrowed some or entered not to be judged. I don’t think one needs custom boots and breeches to show in, but c’mon, try and be close at least!

[DMK]

A few years ago,I showed up at a local schooling show on Saturday afternoon, planning to school my horse and return on Sunday to show. Well apparently the blonde part of me checked the show dates, since the show was being held on Saturday that month (good thing too, since we all had to go prepare for Hurricane Andrew on Sunday ). I showed up without any show clothes - just a sleeveless T (crisp white, though ) jeans, paddock boots and chaps.

I asked show management if I could enter the classes to school, they offered to let me show/be judged, explained to the judge that this was permitted, and off I went.

I can’t recall how I did in that show - the events of the next week were a little overpowering, so to speak, but I don’t recall the judge treating me any different than if I were in full show clothes. Once management has said it’s OK, the judge will generally treat that competitor equally. Like others, I’m guessing that is what happened here.

[wadino]

Where was the show? My trainer went to a schooling show somewhere in PA yesterday. She showed a chestnut with a blaze and four white socks named Pumpkin and schooled and maybe showed a grey mare named Lacey. A lady from my barn was also there on a black horse with a star named My Mink Coat. My trainer is Betsy Morret.

Ryan
“Here’s to goodbye, tomorrow’s gonna come to soon.”

[DarkerHorse]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpotsNChrome:
I took two riders to arguably the Best local show in these parts. They are polite, efficient, organized, and even in the face of twice the entries they normally see, their upbeat positive attitude really helped when we were getting tired at around 7 pm.

The class was an equitation class. Out of nine riders, there was a rider who either had forgotten her boots,or was too hot to wear them. In any case, there was six inched of skin showing from breeches too short until you got to the red socks, dirty paddock shoes, further called attention to by spurs. Her shirt was handing out of the back of her jacket, her tack dirty, etc. Do I sound like GM yet???

Everyone lines up, and this person is announced as the winner of the class. To make matters worse, she was announced as the winner of the second hack (WTC) ( I was hoping the wrong lead would save us from war) and then Champion of the division!

So help me explain to my student, who, no, shouldn’t have won, but was upset at this get up. Her aggravated feelings revealed that she should have worn her bathing suit that day instead of working so hard.

But now my question to the judge: not only did she insult all the trainers and the riders in the ring, but Where DOES the judge draw a line at attire in an equitation class? Clearly she insulted herself the most. By not letting this rider know that her show attire was not very acceptable, everyone else feels their efforts are worth zilch. If the rider DID forget her boots, to tuck in and clean up, appreciate a judges comment that “I could have pinned you first today, however…”

The shame of it all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its a local show… anways you arent judged on what you wear, but how you ride.

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http://www.catchride.com

[JR11]

ljo: we’re neighbors (well, probably not, but ny…) and it was only england for few weeks I loved it there…it was other places too…england was the best, though!
flash44, or whoever said to watch it with the short and fat stuff: that comment was comming from someone who was 4’3 by 4’3 for quite a while, and is an avid supporter of the “appearances don’t matter and we wonder why so many juniors have eating disorders, duh!” clique. I hate the way some people in this sport are about weight. I’ve overheard so many trainers tell their students that they need to lose weight, and not 15,16,17 year olds going for medal finals who are hindering their horses abilities, more like 7,8,9 yr olds who are not fat by any stretch of the imagination. Grrrr it’s such buLl$hayt. I’d start a topic on it but I think there have been so many…should I anyway???

[JR11]

Ok, I too hate to play devil’s advocate, and I know this was probably not the case with this red-socked person, but the show before I left I was doing jumpers and was unexpectedly asked to ride two jr hunters. I was wearing a polo and skunk hat, and I leapt of my jumper, grabbed the tack, got on one horse, w/out warming up I ran into the ring, did two trips w/out anyone in between, leapt of that horse, got on the next, did one jump b/c he’s “tricky”, and went and did two more trips. The horses were champ and reserve b/c they were the two nicest horses and we had great trips. Everyone else was in formal attire, i wasn’t. If she rode the best, maybe there was a story like that, maybe there wasn’t, but personally I think that good riders should get good ribbons, even if they are poorly dressed, on ugly horses, fat, short, w/out a name trainer, etc. I actually (although my GM obsession forces me to agree with you on the fact that she embarrassed herself the most) think that it’s a step forward for a judge to overlook appearance if she was a good rider.
If she wasn’t good, then you’re absolutely right, she shouldn’t have been pinned. And YOU ARE RIGHT! it was innappropriate to show in that attire.

[BaByHuEy1234]

I have experienced a couple situations like this, mainly at local shows. That is why I don’t like hunter/equitation.

Janet-Yes I agree equitation is judged on the form etc of the rider, but the overall neatness ties into that too. How you dress shows how much care and effort you put into your riding. If I were a judge and saw a rider enter my ring in such a mess I would not even consider her round, even if it was the best out of all the rounds, I would pin the second best as first because I would never dare enter an equitation class untidy. But that is just me because I feel when I am neat and tidy I ride so much better…maybe it’s just me tho?

~Tracey and Baby Huey (The monster sized horsey)~

[Janet]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> And the “nerd” in me comes out and tells you what you already know - all your calculations will work with
the number 1 (assuming “another” prime number did not mean a “different” prime number) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1, 100, 1000, etc will work too

[barngirl]

EQ is judging the rider… but one should come prepared for the class, and look there best. I realize people forget things, but if that is the case one should certainly try to do their best to make their appearance as low key and corect as possible… It doesn’t take much to tuck in a shirt and hose off your paddocks before heading to the show ring. And while the lastest fashion shouldn’t matter in the show ring, proper turnout should… it is part of the sport whether you like it or not. If one frets about the appearance of a hunter as the emphasis is on the horse… its coat should shine, tack gleam and mane should be neatly braided… likewise an EQ rider should be just as neatly turned out.
and how does one forget their boots??? I don’t even wear my tall boots except for shows and sometimes a lesson or ride before the show to get that feel back… otherwise I ride in my ariats and half chaps. BUt I guess i spend so much time polising my boots the night before and piling clean tack and show stuff in front of the door that it is harder to forget. i have now gotten in the habit of loading the truck up the night before. Can’t say I will never forget my boots, but it seems silly to me.

[Regalmeans]

Jr - I get what you are saying but what strikes me here is that this girl in the original post really wasn’t properly dressed for ANY kind of riding - when would you ever school like that even? The red socks and skin showing - etc? With your example I would assume you were wearing boots and breeches - maynot classic hunter attire b/c you didn’t have a jacket/show shirt on but you were still neat and functional…

It’s one thing to not be fashionable but the outfit described in the original post doesn’t seem practical either…

Sarah * AKA “Regal’s Person”
http://www.geocities.com/regalmeans
“your light reflected now - reflected from above - we were but stones - your light made us stars”

[Flash44]

Jr* - watch it with the “short and fat” comments.

Many many moons ago, I completed all my classes, and my mom left with my boots and jacket. I was halfway through unbraiding my pony and heard over the PA that I was tied for Champion. The other entry wanted to hack off, so I tacked up my half braided pony, got on with breeches and SNEAKERS with no coat, and won the hack off because the other girl picked up the wrong lead.

[MsRidiculous]

ask langshaw how SHE feels about the outcome of her latest eq flat

-Amanda

[Flash44]

Barngirl - very easily, you just forget. They stay hidden away in the closet, or whatever. It’s not like underwear or something you put on as soon as you get out of bed. Especially when you are loading your vehicle before the sun comes up and you have to skip your morning gallon of coffee because that would require too many pit stops on the way to the show grounds.

Now that I have 2 pairs of boots, I have to be careful my boots actually match! I almost took 2 left boots to the last show.

[Weatherford]

My father dumped me at a horse show once and drove off with my boots still in his car. (Before the days of mobile phones.) I explained to the show management & apologized to the judge, and went on to be Champion.

Things happen.

(I don’t think my sock were red, but they probably did not match…)

[Janet]

Personally, I think that how well you ride is the best reflection of how much care and effort you put into your riding.

And while I DO always wear proper (if not fashionable) attire for showing, I find the opposite effect from you. I ride much better in comfortable clothes. Show clothes make me feel stiff and uncomfortable (espescially when it is hot), and I don’t ride as well.

When you enter a show, you are asking for a particular judge’s opinion. I think it is perfectly reasonable for a given judge to ignore turnout and focus only on riding. I think it is also perfectly reasonable for another judge to take into account major deficiencies in turnout.

[Kellybird]

DMK–

[SpotsNChrome]

I took two riders to arguably the Best local show in these parts. They are polite, efficient, organized, and even in the face of twice the entries they normally see, their upbeat positive attitude really helped when we were getting tired at around 7 pm.

The class was an equitation class. Out of nine riders, there was a rider who either had forgotten her boots,or was too hot to wear them. In any case, there was six inched of skin showing from breeches too short until you got to the red socks, dirty paddock shoes, further called attention to by spurs. Her shirt was handing out of the back of her jacket, her tack dirty, etc. Do I sound like GM yet???

Everyone lines up, and this person is announced as the winner of the class. To make matters worse, she was announced as the winner of the second hack (WTC) ( I was hoping the wrong lead would save us from war) and then Champion of the division!

So help me explain to my student, who, no, shouldn’t have won, but was upset at this get up. Her aggravated feelings revealed that she should have worn her bathing suit that day instead of working so hard.

But now my question to the judge: not only did she insult all the trainers and the riders in the ring, but Where DOES the judge draw a line at attire in an equitation class? Clearly she insulted herself the most. By not letting this rider know that her show attire was not very acceptable, everyone else feels their efforts are worth zilch. If the rider DID forget her boots, to tuck in and clean up, appreciate a judges comment that “I could have pinned you first today, however…”

The shame of it all.