What would you pay for this lease?

[StormyDay]

What would you expect to pay for this lease? Horse is a 18h draft type (probably some sort of cross). Totally, 100%, bombproof. The kind of bombproof you could put your grandma on and go for a trail ride. Also extremely sweet on the ground, good ground manners, and could stand and be groomed all day. WTC and jumps small stuff, but not a hack winner. More of a confidence builder type. No naughty behavior at all.

However, he has some quirks with the farrier and isn’t the best for getting baths.

Horse is in Virginia. Thoughts on what you’d pay?

[Scribbler]

@StormyDay

What would you expect to pay for this lease? Horse is a 18h draft type (probably some sort of cross). Totally, 100%, bombproof. The kind of bombproof you could put your grandma on and go for a trail ride. Also extremely sweet on the ground, good ground manners, and could stand and be groomed all day. WTC and jumps small stuff, but not a hack winner. More of a confidence builder type. No naughty behavior at all.

However, he has some quirks with the farrier and isn’t the best for getting baths.

Horse is in Virginia. Thoughts on what you’d pay?

Where I live you would pay his costs. Either a care lease, or a half board. If he was in a lesson program I’d expect his lease would have some padding on it to generate income for the trainer. Things are likely different elsewhere.

[2bayboys]

Does it horse show? Jump around a little course at local shows with lead changes and the step? Or is this a trail ride/lesson/play with around the farm type of horse?

If the latter, then I would expect a care lease situation.

[endlessclimb]

I was going to say the same, but didn’t want to be insulting. He sounds like a fun horse, minus his quirks, but not something worth paying a substantial lease fee on.

[StormyDay]

Ok yeah you guys just confirmed what I was thinking.
He does have the step (being 18h and all) but isn’t a Hunter type mover. He is one of those horses that could take a monkey over the jumps though.

[Pokerface]

From my experiences in a nearby state, it would vary based on if it was a show-quality horse. A cute (traditionally good looking, not cute in a “doesn’t look like a show horse, but does the job ok” way) horse who jumps around 2’3 with a swap, doesn’t need crazy amounts of maintenance, I could see it going for $5-6k lease. If it looks very drafty and doesn’t have a swap, I’d say its a care lease (as in just gets its board/shoes/vet/insurance paid, no money on top to owner). I say this as someone who owned an amazing draft x, with my parents also having owned draft crosses. They can be lovely, but they can also look like a cart horse. My horse looked like an older style English hunter, traditionally attractive, but not quite fitting into the WB types we know. My dads horse is very attractive, but he goes more like a draft cross. It takes more work to get him to “fit in”.

If the horse doesn’t have a lead change (you didn’t mention), no real hopes of getting a lead change, and doesn’t consistently land the lead, I’d say its more of a care lease situation.

[Highflyer1]

It depends. I rode a horse like this this year and did BN eventing and 2’7 jumpers on him and he was so much fun. He isn’t fancy in the dressage but finished in the ribbons at all his events and was champion or reserve at 5/6 little jumper shows. He was a lesson horse and they didn’t do leases (and I couldn’t afford one anyway) but honestly to the right person a horse like this is priceless. It’s just not a hunter person, maybe.

[fivestrideline]

Sounds like a care lease or small fee for month to month (like… low low 3 figures a month on top of care costs). If he trailers well and can horse show, he sounds like an invaluable teacher for someone, but might fit in better as a half lesson horse/half lease situation.

[Impractical_Horsewoman]

Honestly, 18h is a lot of horse. This may be an unpopular opinion, but unless you could find a taller rider really in search of that big an animal, I’d agree with the care lease camp. The size for many riders would be a detriment as well as an extra strain on the barn. At least for a very drafty chunk of a beast. A more warmblood-y type 18h with a change would be different perhaps.

[mika0116]

care lease (SoCal) or some sort of nominal fee per month, less than $400/mo. Market for a confidence builder is always there, but a horse with quirks for farrier (meaning he will be annoying for BO/ BM to deal with) & baths may be a harder sell to someone who “needs confidence”…

I second a good hill topping horse / lesson type for a taller adult (6’2+) - possibly a male, beginner AA over 230lbs?

If horse is “cute” and can horse show (maybe puddle jumpers) - you may be able to get up to $8k/year lease situation for a tall kid / AA who needs to feel safe.

My sister as teen rode a half TB / Belgian cross and tore up tiny jumpers. Thing was bombproof and you’d go over (or thru) every jump. Small lease fee was part of the deal back in 2003.

[joiedevie99]

Care lease, unless he’s a proven hunt horse (even if only to hilltop/3rd field).