hi all, not new to the boards, but new to this fourm. i am an eventer that just got a foxhunter in to sell. so, where/what websites work the best? really nice quiet,sweet irish horse. could be a husband horse. anyone can ride type, and has done a little of everything. any suggestions? thanks in advance.
If it has actually hunted and this can be verified, try putting out a message on Foxhunter’s Online. There are always folks there looking for horses.
But make sure you verify it’s hunting experience and that the appropriate people can be contacted to verify it before you advertise it as a foxhunter
Honestly, based off of your website’s description of him, since it has been so long since the horse has hunted, and you don’t know how well it actually did hunt, I would take him hunting once the season starts before advertising him as a made field hunter.
A horse that is totally dead quiet in a ring can become a total lunatic that no one wants to be on when you put him in a hunt situation; or, they could be exactly the same. No way to tell w/o actually hunting him. And also, the Irish hunting style is VERY different from most American hunts. I know of several people who bought and imported “that wonderful horse” they rode on their Irish hunting vacation. Some of them have been continually excellent here; the others turned out to be not too pleasant once they were hunting here due to the change of program. Those were soon for sale as event or jumper prospects.
I’d think an ad in the Chronicle Magazine would get results. I’ve seen ads in there for foxhunters and they appear only once.
thanks all.
sidesaddle- i don’t ride in a ring. i have big open fields here and he has been ridden alone and in company. his owner is the one that imported him and i don’t think i said he was a made field hunter, just said he had hunted in ireland.i really cannot see this horse as crazy or a luntic in any situation
jager-thanks. i will see if she can get some sort of record when he foxhunted and with who. i did not know they kept records like that. see, that’s why i came here to ask.
I think people maybe misunderstood your original post where you said you just got a foxhunter in to sell and wanted to know the best place to advertise it. That kind of sounded like, well, it was a foxhunter.
I would just advertise it in the usual places, and note in there that the horse did hunt in Ireland and with which hunt if you know.
In England people actually have a card that they have to get the Master to sign when the horse goes out, and if it is marketed as a field hunter they have to show that card, at least that’s what I have been told.
Our Master gets calls frequently about horses for sale that people call “field hunters” and say it hunted with us, usually what happened is they brought it out once or twice, the horse was fruit loop, they can’t sell it as anything else and now they call it a field hunter. Unfortunately we have to embarrass them by illuminating their deception.
And as SSR said, unless you have seen it hunt and can vouch for it, I would not advertise it as a field hunter. If it was that great a field hunter it would still be in Ireland or still be hunting somewhere.
well the lady that imported him is an eventer. she knows he did foxhunt, but does not remember where, so he is a little bit of a master of all trades :)she does not foxhunt, she bought him because he was so sweet and sane. i talked to her today and she said he is even better in groups, hard to believe he is even better as he is so sweet and easy. thanks again.
Not saying you do. But to give you an example, I have personally worked with a horse that was LOVELY in the ring (quiet in a rubber snaffle, can jump around with novice beginners, etc), LOVELY to work out in a huge field with 1-2 other horses, LOVELY to hack out cross-country with 3-4 other horses, etc. But you put him in a group trail ride with 5+ horses…and forget it. He is NOT something you really want to be on. I am NOT saying your guy is like that – he could be absolutely wonderful out hunting – but since you (and his owner) have not hunted him, who knows?
And regarding that you didn’t call him “made,” if you are advertising him as a foxhunter, then that inherently implied that the horse is a made field hunter, other wise they are a prospect. As Jaegermonster said, best to advertise him in the usual places and just state that he has hunted.
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Every horse in Ireland has hunted. That is how they usually start them under saddle. Just because one has hunted in Ireland does not mean it can hunt here. I’ve imported dozens of horses from Ireland. Not all of them would hunt here.
My family live there for a year in the mid-90’s to hunt and my husband was a Master there for 12 seasons. I think every Irishman I have ever met tried to sell me a horse!
Have you hunted there. It is a very different type of hunting than what we have. A day consists of four to six hours of jumping onto and off of huge banks and over monster drains in deep mud. Most of the jumping is done from a stand still from a huge group of horses/riders milling about trying to get through the gap first. They don’t do a lot of galloping (except on the paved roads) and very few “fly” fences (ususally a wooden pallet tied into the wire). I would definitely say this horse needed to go hunting here before trying to sell him as a field hunter. Saying he might have hunted in Ireland, but you don’t know where is not really a good sales point. Better to find out who she got the horse from in Ireland and then you would know more about his background. Remember the Irish have perfected the art of horse dealing; so much that many of the Irish Americans won’t buy a horse from them. The Irish LOVE selling horses to Americans because they can’t get returned
From the sounds of it, the owner bought him as an eventer. He isn’t a good eventer??
Best to find him a job before trying to market him.
Rosemarie Merle-Smith
www.virginiafieldhunters.com
rosemarie, this horse has a job,several. one of those was that he had foxhunted in ireland before she imported him. she is english and lived over there for sometime.i was not trying to market him as just a foxhunter. he has done that, eventing,jumpers, and some hunters. and is just all in all a really good decent, honest horse. does whatever you ask of him. and i have been marketing horses for many years, just came on here to see what websites sell foxhunters, wanted to look and see how they advertized and what the websites were all about. thanks anyways.
If he’s not being sold as a foxhunter don’t put him on sites geared just toward foxhunters. Most of what you see on those sites are made, proven field hunters and/or young horses in barns that have a well earned reputation for producing very nice field hunters (like Rose Maries).
Best to advertise him on places like Dreamhorse, maybe in the COTH, say what he is mostly doing now or has been doing recently and leave it at that.
Put in your ad exactly what you put in your last post, price him fairly and leave it at that. People know what they want and know what they are looking for, if he fits the bill they will contact you.
Most folks looking for a field hunter or hunter prospect know what they want and look at other places than just those geared specifically toward us. If they are interested in him they will contact you and ask, and you can mention then that he has hunted somewhere back in his past, and the more information you can get about it the better.
The person from England who owns him now did not hunt him? So she doesn’t even know how he did? That doesnt do you much good. I’m getting the impression that it has been a very long time since this horse has seen a hound. I wouldn’t go too much that way unless you or someone else gets him out and hunts him.
like i said above, my mistake for asking about foxhunting websites. i guess i will just stick to what i know, hunters,jumpers and event horses.just thought that might be another outlet for him. i did not know they kept such records on hunt horses, but that is why i came on here to ask. thanks for all the comments
“Has hunted!” does not necessarily mean the same as “has hunted well.”
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… just sayin’ …
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like i said above, my mistake for asking about foxhunting websites. i guess i will just stick to what i know, hunters,jumpers and event horses.just thought that might be another outlet for him. i did not know they kept such records on hunt horses, but that is why i came on here to ask. thanks for all the comments :)[/QUOTE]
Only because some folks (and not you, I have met you and you are not in that group) who have only seen a hunt in pictures take any horse that isn’t nice enough to be a show hunter, doesn’t move well enough for hunters or dressage, isn’t talented enough to be a jumper, can’t do western or whatever, that they can’t find anything else to do with and advertise it as a “foxhunter” or “field hunter prospect”.
A true made field hunter will easily run in the mid five figures and has to be just as nice and talented, and brave to boot as any show hunter or event horse.