Where do you find new broodmares for your herd?

Is there a Facebook group or website that you find them listed on? Primarily through word of mouth? I have a client who would like me to help her find a broodmare home for her maiden mare (which could be a challenge in its own right), but without too much connection to the breeding community, I am not super on-the-pulse of where I should advertise her. The mare is a registered Oldenburg, if that makes a difference, and we’re in Maryland - I did see a couple TB and QH broodmare groups on Facebook, and put her in one Warmblood group that I found, but super interested to hear where people find their broodmares!

Thanks!

Are you trying to rehome the mare? Breeders breed their mares and propagate mare lines that breed on dependably. Why not contact local breeders and pitch your mare? Let them know what she has produced and what her family has done.

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The strength of her pedigree, particularly her damline, will ascertain her value and her sire’s production record and popularity will also get interest - or not. If she has been inspected and approved with good scores from one of the major WB registries, that will help. If she has a competition record or produce record that is helpful, particularly if any of her foals are out competing and doing well. A maiden potential broodmare, espcially going into winter, that is open will be a harder sale. Alot of factors decide her value and those are of primary interest to a knowledgeable breeder. Good luck.

I hope I’m not side tracking this thread too much, but, for my own edification, can you say a bit more as to why the damline is particularly important? Is the mare not an equal product of her dam and sire? (I’m not a breeder so pardon my ignorance!)

Most breeders that understand the process, put great value of mare’s lineage. The production record of her and 4-5 generations of the damline’s production carries a great deal of weight and importance for breeding. If you look at a Thoroughbred sale catalog you will see the stallion/sire at the top of the page and a paragraph about him. The remainder of the page is dedicated to the mareline, showing “black type” producers - meaning their foals raced and won in stakes company. The same is true of sporthorses. While the sire is important and often looked at moreso by those who aren’t dedicated breeders, the strength of the damline holds greater importance. The dam only produces one foal a year and a limited number in her lifetime, so those that are proven to produce multiple upper level foals give the potential broodmare more value/importance than the sire. He is, of course a considered factor and should be proven or of proven bloodlines. But, again, even his damline holds great importance. It’s just the way it is. The feeling is the dam is a stronger portion of the resulting foal(s) so a “blue hen” producer is coveted.

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Ok, first…it’s a maiden mare and thus won’t have a production record.

OP, I hope you can help this mare find a good broodmare home, and for that I don’t have any help.

I have raised only a very few foals, bred a couple of mares. But my job is raising beef cattle for seedstock, our main income source is from selling breeding bulls.

If you want good bulls to sell, you have to have good cows to produce them. You’re not going to get a superstar bull from a mediocre cow, and by mediocre I mean mothering ability, milk production, general thriftiness.

The female provides pretty much half the genetic material for the baby, but all of the environment. The quality of her immune system will have a very large effect on the baby in utero, and for several months after birth with regards to colostral antibody quantity and quality. And then her mothering ability will make a difference to the stress levels and ‘learning to be a horse’ (or cow) for the baby she’s raising.

We used to do quite a lot of embryo transfer here, and eventually figured out that if an ET calf was going to be notable, its recipient mama had to produce superior calves in the first place. A mediocre or subpar cow pretty much gave us an embryo transfer calf that was also mediocre or subpar. Yes, it had the ‘best’ genetics, and a female would usually grow up to be a good cow, but it was a fail if we were trying to sell the male calves as bulls.

It used to be that DNA was thought to be a permanent fixture, we now know that ‘Epigenetics’ is a factor. This means that environmental factors can affect whether or not specific genes are turned on, or turned off. So expression of genetics can be affected by environment. These effects can happen to the parents producing sperm/eggs, they can happen in utero, they can happen after birth. Toxicities, undernourishment/nutritional deficiencies, extreme stress etc can have an effect on genetic expression.

This meant that, if we wanted a good embryo transfer program, we would either have to buy unregistered/unregisterable cows that were excellent producers to raise ET calves, or take our own good registered cows and have them raise some other cow’s calf. We decided to concentrate on having good cows raise their own good calves, via AI breeding which we already do anyway.

But yes, a broodmare prospect from bloodlines known to be good mothers is a much better bet to produce quality foals than something mediocre, subpar or unknown.

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There are several warmblood broodmare groups on FB. You can’t post price, but you can post pictures and information. One of them is Warmblood Broodmares Showcase, and there are others. They get good response; I recently sold a broodmare through Facebook.

Fillabeana - EXACTLY* soooooo many novice equine breeders just look at a mare as a vessel to produce a “great” foal if bred to a stallion with star quality and great advertising. NOOOOOO! NOT ever going to happen! They think they can buy a mare for cheap with mediocre papers and conformation to match, etc. etc. and the foal will
duplicate the stallion. If you want to breed a really good quality foal - start with the best quality mare you can beg, borrow or steal. That’s the best advice I can and always will give someone who wants to breed - * that advice* - find a good/great mare before you do ANYTHING else! It costs alot of money to breed, especially to a nice stallion, so use a
mare worthy of spending the money on to get a foal.

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Yeah, I remember hearing a top horse breeder pass on the advice, probably in the late 70s, early 80s, spend almost all of your money on the mare. Then breed her to a good stallion. That being a much better strategy than using an inexpensive/mediocre mare and spending most of the money on the stud fee for an exceptional, or exceptionally well promoted, stallion.

There seems to be a much more hillbilly/redneck version of the ‘blue hen mare’ in cattle. I once heard a master cattle breeder remark of a very, very good cow…“You could breed her to a billy goat and she’d have your best calf of the year”.

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Everything said here is why I’ve spent the past 2 years stalking a TB mare that is 1/2 sister to my OTTB gelding. I love his temperament so much that I really want the only sibling out of the same mare. :lol:

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Are you selling her or re-homing her? I know a breeder who may be interested in a rehoming situation.

Have you checked back with her original breeder? Not always, but sometimes you get lucky and it’s one who really wants to keep certain bloodlines going or who sees value in getting their mares placed at other breeding farms.

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