Mary’s Tack and Feed in Del Mar Ca has strongid C2X for $33 a bucket, they do ship all over, but I don’t know if the freight would be too expensive.
That is the cheapest I have seen it go for.
PetSmart charges around $39, when they are running a sale) I have seen it for as high as $49 for a bucket.
Phone # for Mary’s 1-800-551-6279
website www.marystack.com
or PetSmart (aka State Line Tack) www.statelinetack.com
Hope this helps! 
As a veterinarian, I find it very insulting that none of you realize the ‘real cost’ of equine pharmaceatucals, and, I can only hope that your ‘magazine vendors’ will come out at night and treat your horses’ colic.
That’s what a veterinarian promises you for your money. Don’t be penny foolish, enroll in Preventicare !!!
Yup, Sleepy, I’m with you - as a well phrased delivery of a position, that one did nothing for me either.
I still don’t think that you give enough credit for people who have a relationship with their vet. I’m quite sure their are people out there who absolutely do end up “treating” their horse when they have no business doing so. And I am sure their vet gets to play guessing games when the piper comes to call. I am equally sure this happened long before Pfizer turned traitor and sold generic strongid OTC, and will happen countless times in the future, for countless reasons other than daily wormer.
I, however, am not one of them (at least according to my vet), and from what I have gathered talking to the people on this post, they are not either.
As for the perks that drug companies offer to medical professionals and facilities, that is a subject I am way too familiar with. Just because they do it doesn’t make it right.
Jane, since this is evolving into a private discussion, I am going to advise myself to take it off line, as any good moderator should 
I’ll email you.
well, actually, in my case I didn’t think I was being penny foolish. With the savings on buying the exact same product through Jeffers, or some other similar vendor, I can afford to maintain health insurance on my horses, which incidently, is not limited to colic.
To me, this seemed to be much more in keeping with the animals best interests, but you know, I could be wrong.
I heard last night that the patent for Strongid is about up and Select will be introducing a very similar product for a lesser price. That’s about all I know but if you know a Select dealer, they should know (I got my info from the Northeast dealer/rep).
I’m sure the rules must be different from state to state. I’ve never had insurance, or been required to have insurance, on a horse I boarded. The requirements are generally “current Coggins,” with the occasional “current PHF” thrown in for good measure. One barn I was at would not give shots, period, but had no problem with me giving penicillin twice a day IM, under vet’s orders. All barn owners would administer Banamine, under vet’s instructions. I haven’t run into a barn owner who would just give it without talking with the vet first. I have run into barn owners who would tranq. without checking with a vet first, which I find pretty scary.
Where does your insurance draw the line? My horse requires Isoxsuprine twice a day. I grind it up and make the dosages available for barn personnel to give with feed. I have a scrip from my vet for the med., but under your insurance would I be required to have him come and give it to my horse 2x/day? What about the occasional Bute that most horses seem to need from time to time?
I’m honestly curious, since my only exposure has been to Maryland barns and my experience is so different from what you are saying is the norm in your area.
They have Strongid C 2X as well as Equi-Aid which is the generic version of C 2X it is much cheaper than Strongid at $119 for a 400 day supply. My feelings is that 2.11% pyrental tartrate is the same, regardless of the label 
Again, it is not your “insurance” that comes out at any given time for emergencies; it is your veterinarian ! Think about it.
DMK…I agree with your statement totally. I think that you will find that companies offer vets products that are private labeled, but…if the vets across the country don’t buy into the products, for one reason or another, to make it profitable enough for the company, the company will open it up to the general market. Can’t really blame the companies because they are in the business of making money. There are many products out there that are private labeled for vets and the same product is available at the tack stores but with a different label. The main reason for this is because the vets like to add 300-400% to the price or they normally won’t carry the product and they don’t like carrying products that are available at a tack store.
Script is fine. I have 2 horses on Isox 2 times a day as well… If the vet comes out, gives a signed bottle to signed horse to sigen client and signs a prescript for me I can administer it under his direction. He must however, SEE the horse. I can’t call him with symptoms over the phone and then administer any meds I may have on hand. once he has visited the horse and has written the script we are OK. I have a script for bute, and we can administer 2 tabs after horse shows. I do have a script to worm the barn every 4 weeks also.
I guess I got into this as people wonder about board rates, and sometimes the rate is the reflection of the coverage. My insurance covers each horse at 50,000 limit on liability. I do have CCC also. I do require each person to carry
Mortality and encourage Major med, it is worth it in the long run to have it.
I agree with DMK. I get the EquiAid from Jeffers. It’s the best price I’ve found and I’ve done A LOT of looking.
That sounds rather greedy and money grubbing for a veterinarian. If my doctor told I could only buy my meds from him instead of the pharmacy, he wouldn’t be my doctor anymore. And none of my vets have told me that if I didn’t put my horses on Strongid, they wouldn’t treat them for colic.
Select is supposed to be a good company. But…let me say this. We have ten Quarter horses, with four mares in foal, and I do not like pumping all these available chemicals into them. I use meds, like wormers and supplements, as needed. Farriers across the country are saying that with all the supplements, wormers and so on that horse people use are starting to show up in the feet. Mother nature didn’t plan on us giving these animals all the chemicals that companies make. Good hay and grain, when needed, are all these animals require. Hard work on the owners part can take care of the rest. I used Strongid for a short while, but didn’t like pushing chemicals down my horses throat on a daily basis…and actually, they looked better when I took them off of the chemicals. Just my opinion…remember the saying? “Keep it simple…on you, your horse and your pocket book.”
The last few posts have started me wondering how the ubiquitous “show prep hunter cocktail” fits in with both stable liability policies and full mortality insurance.
For example, a liability policy would cover a business in the case of an adverse reaction to a medication if the medication was dispensed under the direction of a vet (IOW, business has a prescription for the med). The vet is covered by the vet’s malpractice insurance because said vet has actually examined the horse prior to issuing the prescription. BTW, this is why the small animal hospital I worked at insisted that all animals be brought in for an examination prior to vaccines or dispensing antibiotics, etc.
Note that the prescribed medications seem to be limited to the use of those administered orally. Although many horse owners are comfortable giving injections I think that you are entering a gray area in terms of liability coverage just because it supposedly takes a lot more skill to administer an injection than a tablet. I’m not sure about that - it’s a heck of a lot easier for me to give an IV than paste a horse but then again I spent 11 years IVing dogs and cats .
I think that you run the risk of voiding payment from a full mortality policy if the insurance company were to investigate and find that a medication was administered sans the direction of a vet. A friend of mine had a small lump removed from his horse’s side (cosmetic purposes only) and the vet called the insurance company and had the surgery okayed prior to performing the surgery.
Which brings me to the drugs that are commonly administered by trainers at shows often to very expensive insured horses ostensibly under the direction of a vet. Now I don’t know about your vet but I’m darned sure that mine wouldn’t suggest that I administer a whopping dose of Azium to my horse so she was quiet at the horse show. And we do know that their are horses out there that get their Ketaprofen or Arquel injections prior to the class. I somehow doubt that the vet is called upon to adminster these drugs.
So how are the trainers getting around the chance that something could go wrong and that they or their business could be liable for any harm done to the horse by their action(s)? Do they not carry liability insurance? If they do carry insurance do they not understand the policy’s coverage? Are they just taking a chance? Do they plan to throw everything back in their vet’s lap if something should go wrong?
I would suspect that if an owner were to administer a med and the horse would have an adverse reaction they would have a hard time suing the stable UNLESS the person managing/owning the business recommended that they administer the medication.
Nina (grinding an axe in Pa on a cold afternoon)
[This message was edited by Chrissy on Dec. 27, 2000 at 09:55 AM.]
