Which Agility Association/Trial?

I’ve been training at two different agility places and my one trainer thinks we are ready to start competing. The other club has not discussed this yet but they have a series of classes that get you ready for competition and I’m on the third level.

At any rate, trying to decide which association to trial with. Nadac is primarily the association where my one trainer thought we should start, however, their are quite a few CPE, usdaa, AKC and uki trials too. Can’t decide which ones to take…

Any thoughts?

My agility friends like CPE and find that they are an easier place to start than AKC. They do them both, but I guess CPE is very beginner friendly. Not sure about the others. Hope someone else will chime in.

A lot of this is going to be geographic. I can’t sneeze without hitting a AKC trial. I could also find UKI trials locally. Some of the other organizations would require me to drive 4+ hours.

UKI offers nursery, which are VERY VERY straightforward tests (in my opinion, sometimes too “soft” to be a test of whether to move up to novice). I would say UKI and AKC’s novice levels are about different. In my area you see some slightly trickier things in UKI (nested obstacles, more discrimination, hard extension/collection stuff like a A-frame right to a table). Every AKC novice class I’ve ever seen has been straightforward (maybe 1 change of direction, maybe 1 discrimination challenge). You only weave 6 and you get 3 tries. In UKI you start with 12. In AKC you can do FAST which is basically choose your own course plus a send. This is a good class to begin with because if something is an issue for you, just don’t do that obstacle. In UKI they have gamblers which is similar but there are more rules and sometimes the gamble is a timed gamble rather than a send/distance gamble. I personally find the AKC rules a lot easier to follow/understand.

It seems like there are far more nadac trials locally. The one training club is mostly usdaa and akc agility which seems to involve more travel. CPE is not as prevalent…I’m just wondering which is the best for friendly fun environments to start off with.

And then how do you structure which one you stick with. Is it better to travel to the other trials? Will that give more experience or exposure to learning opportunities? Or do most folks just stick with what is close to home?

NADAC can be a good venue to start with, and if you have plenty of local trials (and support from your training club/friends), you’ll be fine starting out there. Personally, I run AKC, because, as vxf mentioned, those are the trials nearest to me. A nearby friend runs CPE almost exclusively, and she has to travel a bit farther for trials than I do.

As far as “friendly fun environments” - I think that’s more of a local club/site issue than a venue/organization issue - I think our local AKC clubs do a good job of making trials approachable for novice dogs and handlers, and there’s at least one trial site that I travel to frequently that I would not recommend to a newbie for their first trial. It’s a great site, and hosts lots of trials, but it’s huge and can be a little intimidating at first.

OP, if you tell us where you’re located (generally speaking), that might help folks offer suggestions about venues.
I’ll try to post a bit more later about the differences between venues.

I’ll second NADAC as beginner friendly and if that’s what near you… there ya go! Where are you located? You can continue to trial in multiple venues. Plenty of friends have MACH, ATCH, and NATCHs. You may find one venue is more suited to your dog’s style or your skills.

My biggest, bestest advice: walk up to ANYone standing around and tell them you are brand new, petrified, and need help. That will get you lots of help, support, and cheerleaders. =)

I’m in Northern VA. there are quite a few options after I did more research. NADAC seems to have quite a few trials at the place I currently train which is nice as its familiar. Guess I’m a little nervous.

How often do you trial?

Well, heck, then OP - I’d start with NADAC - it’s local, the site will be familiar and I’m sure you’ll know a bunch of the folks there already!
That said - here’s a bit of a rundown on venues
AKC - it’s popular, and you can play with any breed or mix at most trials (there are a few trials that limit to dogs of a particular breed, and there are some rare trials that are not open to mixed breeds, but those are fewer and fewer). There are only 6 classes that you can enter in one given day, and two of those (Premier) are limited to Masters level dogs, so for the new team - you’ve got 4 classes (max) in one day. With the exception of FAST (sort of like gamblers choice) you will have to do weave poles on every course. You’ll also need to have good command of the teeter, the table and the tire. Courses vary as each judge designs their own for each trial. Oh, and your dog can do it’s measured jump height or 4" below (called Preferred). And scoring-wise, it’s pretty unforgiving.
NADAC - not as popular in my area, but open to all dogs. Has a wider variety of classes and games, including some that don’t have weaves, others that don’t have contacts, etc. No table, tire or teeter. Helps if you and your dog are comfortable working at distance. Lower max jump heights, and you can go even lower if you run the dog as a veteran. Run by one person, and she apparently designs most of the courses, so I remember hearing people say things like “I remember we did this course at ______ trial 2 years ago.” Dogs have to run without a collar. Titling is sort of complicated to me - but I’m used to AKC titles which are very simple/straightforward. Courses are usually fast and flowy. Sometimes the only difference between the courses for different levels is the time allowed (higher level teams have less time to complete the same course.)
CPE - lots of game classes, doesn’t seem to have as stringent requirements for qualifying scores - have heard it referred to as “Can’t Perform Elsewhere” which seems a bit mean to me. There are a couple of options to allow dogs to jump lower heights. The friend I have who runs it really enjoys it.
USDAA - I haven’t run it, but understand it’s pretty technical and has smaller contact zones, and the A-frame is higher. It used to be that USDAA people would say that AKC courses were easier, but apparently that’s changing. Has higher jump heights than AKC - my 8" dog would have to jump 12" in order to compete at Championship level, though I could drop her to 8" to run “Performance” level.
UKI - Once again, haven’t run it, but I hear it’s fun and can be technical. I think you can “transfer” in to start at a level that matches where you run at other venues - so my MACH dog wouldn’t have to run against true Novice dogs - I could just start her at an equivalent level.

As far as frequency of trialing? It depends - I used to say that I averaged one weekend a month (a weekend might be a 3 or 4 day trial), but then there were a couple of months with two or three trials nearby. And then I started wanting to do more trials because I wanted to finish a MACH, and now we’re trying to qualify for Invitationals, so that means trialing as often as my work schedule and checkbook allow - we’ve got a couple of 4-5 consecutive weekend runs coming up between now and the end of June. Some folks I know trial every weekend (and some weekdays) - so they could be doing 49 or 50 weekends a year. I know other folks who trial one or two days at local trials only, so they might only get 7 or 8 days a year - it’s really up to what you and your dog can handle.

I would start with NADAC or USDAA. The NADAC shows are a lot of fun and VERY friendly to new handlers. They have an intro level and a novice level both of which are great to get started out,. The courses do not have a lot of obstacles unlike USDAA and AKC. There are usually 12-14 in a class as opposed to 20-22 in the other venues. USDAA is more technical, but I find the games are fun and the people tend to be friendlier( not knocking all AKC it is just what I find in MY area). And the AKC rules can be confusing. At NADAC, at all levels, refusals don’t count - there are no teeters, tables or tires and the courses are very flowy - good for baby dogs. And the judges tend to be very leinient. They want the dogs to have a good positive experience. The scoring/Titling is pretty much the same. 3 Q’s for a title - but in Std you can get a 5 pt Q and you have to have 30 pts for a title( most Q’s are 10 pts) so it might take longer to get a Std title.

NADAC sounds like the way to start! Thanks!