Hi all. I’m wading through all the participating organizations for the All-Breeds Awards and trying to figure out the best option for registering my four year old. Hoping for help. My gelding is not registered right now and his breeding is canadian warmblood x percheron. Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations/experience with the relevant organizations? I registered my other gelding, a TB/Paint/Percheron PMU, with the Draft Cross Breeders and Owners Association so I could do the same but I do have papers with my new guy so I figure I have more options. Any thoughts from the collective?
What do you mean by papers? If he isn’t already registered somewhere?
I doubt he is eligible as a Canadian or American Warmblood. Why not cross post in the sport horse breeding forum?
Was the dam approved for any registry that the stallion is also approved for? If there’s crossover there, I would assume that’s your answer. However, if there isn’t, then any of the mainstream registries that I know of (CSHA, CWB, AWB, etc) are out.
Thanks Scribbler! Good idea!
And I guess I was confusing - I meant I have a written pedigree (I guess that’s all it comes down to…) His sire is registered with the CWHBA.
Thanks Edre, that’s kind of what I was noticing, just wasn’t sure if I was missing something. His Dam is not approved.
You may want to contact RPSI - I’ve heard that reaching out to registries directly can often eliminate a lot of the guesswork and that they’re often very helpful. And I suggest RPSI because this page makes it sound like the primary limitation on draftx offspring is that they can’t be stallion prospects. The way I read it, it seems as if an approved CWBHA stallion bred to a draft mare, might have an eligible female offspring if they pass inspection, but I’m not sure if anything changes with geldings…
The sire is registered Canadian Warmblood Horse Breeders Association. Usually that’s a sign the horse is not eligible for a more specific registry like RPSI for Westfalens. So I’m not sure how their rules apply here.
I don’t think any draft horses are approved for any WB registry though correct me if I’m wrong. TB do get approved sometimes. In general I don’t think the WB registries are trying to add more bone and substance, but rather still trying to add more speed and staying power. So there isn’t a percieved “need” for draft blood in the WB registries.
The point of the European registries is to breed a better sport horse year over year, and not all mares and stallions of a given lineage are approved for breeding.
That’s a different goal than North American breed registries which exist to promote a breed, increase the scope of breed activities, foster breed competition, and give everyone a niche to register every possible horse precisely for things like all breeds awards. That’s why there are crossbred registries and color pattern registries that register essentially “grade” horses.
My guess is that the half draft owners association will be the option here too. But maybe worth looking into whether “Sport Horse” registries have looser standards than WB.
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In some circumstances I think (and this is just from reading some of the eligibility pages, what ends up happening is that draft mares can get inspected to make their offspring eligible for HIDs (Horse Identification Document). I’m not sure how the Pre-mare books come into play on this (and mares in those books’ offspring can have COP - Certificate of Pedigree - which means the horse is eligible for the all breeds awards, so not helpful to the OP’s specific question). (This is all from having read the RPSI/Westfalen NA’s FAQ & eligibility pages.)
Although some of what they say in their eligibility page sounds like it contradicts itself, so at the end of the day I think it may be best for the OP to contact registries that seem like they might be viable options based on reading the eligibility requirements, and inquire for their specific situation…
RPSI required both parents be approved for breeding - they would approve almost any kind of MARE into lower books, but were more restrictive with the sire. Oldenburg North America is similar in its requirements. Since this horse has no approved parents, that limits the prospects for a “typical” Warmblood registry. BTW, I am pretty sure RPSI (and a few other smaller registries) have rolled together into a single registry, German Sporthorse Registry, or something like that…
I would guess your best bets are either Canadian Warmblood, American Warmblood, or a Draft cross registry?
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AWS.
If he is a rescue, you can go with the International Rescue Horse Registry for a very low cost. They are an All Breeds Award participant for the USDF to help promote rescue horses as sport horses. 
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