Who knows the history of EQ102 - Equitation horses are not required to be sound?

I was saying to somebody yesterday that in a class with 220 in it, I believe only two kids fell off on Sunday, which is a very low percentage compared to some previous years.

But there were plenty of mistakes, big and small, and that way the cream was able to rise to the top. So that means the course was separating them without overfacing a huge number of them.

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Yeah, just going to echo this 
 even if that’s truly what Bobby7 saw (which I kind of doubt, no offense intended to the poster, but for a number of reasons, I think that’s extremely unlikely), there’s less than 0 reason to do that for an equitation horse.

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There are other substances out there that don’t test. Some of them you can just purchase, so no vet needed. However, I don’t know why anyone would pull shoes and block. The possibility of it wearing off before the round started should be enough to discourage that.

Mostly I hear of people blocking (usually above the hock) when they want to improve dressage movement.

Particularly because, as we saw, you can go in the eq riding a horse that’s 3-4/5 lame and that doesn’t affect how you’re judged at all. :roll_eyes:

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I deleted my post. I think it was inappropriate.

I was there all week, it was when the hunters were going earlier. I know what I saw, this trainer was a friend of my trainer, I was watching the vet do it. It was Serapin.

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Okay, so to be clear, it sounds like you were at the NHS and you saw a trainer do this before a hunter under saddle class. Is that right? The phrasing of your first post made it sound like this was done at the Maclay finals prior to the flat phase of the class.

This doesn’t make it right. I don’t like pulling shoes for the flat at all, never mind blocking their feet (!!) but I’m asking for clarification because the class where you saw this happen is germane to the topic of the thread.

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If USEF would even just monitor barn aisles before big classes and enforce the 12 hour injection rule, the playing field would be different. Tons of horses get tryptophan to the vein before going to the ring. Or thiamine. No test for these as they are naturally occurring. Not sure if they can develop it like they did GABA. Maybe they are not the majority but a meaningful percentage.

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I’ve heard of feeding tryptophan
how in the world does one inject it??

I’d find a new trainer if they were ok with their trainer friends doing this.

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You need a script, but my vet prescribed it when my pony had stall rest for injury. Ace was too strong for him but he needed something.

He was super chill on it and he is normally a busy body.

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And needing a script and injecting it before the class are not mutually exclusive. People order it from the vet and give it to the horse at the show. Like banamine :woman_shrugging:

Compounded as an injectible liquid.

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Yes, it was right before the small junior hunter hack class 15 and under.

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I had no idea
thank you.

All of this is prohibited (giving drugs to mask soundness or make a horse more tired so it’s quieter to show). It’s all performance enhancing whether the substance tests or not. A vet needs to provide anything injectable this close to a class. The logistics of getting it to work timing-wise sounds challenging. I really don’t think this is happening up and down every aisle at all the shows. Especially not for the equitation (which is what this thread was about).

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