Who's the resident expert on BLM mustangs?

They actually don’t run that much. They walk, they eat, they walk as they eat, they nap, they eat some more. It’s not cost effective to run all the time.

Part of what my instructor told me was that domestic horses get more exercise in order to be fit for our purposes and have to be fed by us. I’m assuming he ment pastured horses that are free to move as well as be worked versus stalled horses that get short periods of intense work.

There are trade offs for all wild or feral animals when they expend calories to catch prey and fail, or expend more calories than the calories they can obtain from their grazing areas. I don’t know if mustangs have a greater chance of being eaten by a puma or starving in a drought year.

Just to give you some more benchmarks on pricing, a group of horses from Mantle Ranch were auctioned at Cheyenne Frontier Days, so probably a reasonably “fair” market (high attendance, reasonably knowledgeable bidders, probably not a lot of extraneous factors). I think the EMM auction prices get a little skewed up in some horses because some of the bidders have romantic ideas about Mustangs, and I know I probably wouldn’t have set my high bid as high as I did if I did not know that roughly half went directly to the trainer’s pocket, and another rough half was a donation (tax deductible, even) to the charity that runs the thing and other programs I feel have a lot of value in Mustang welfare. EMM auction prices also get skewed down for individual horses if the trainer is bidding, as it’s generally considered Bad Form to bid against trainers. Anyway, the bids for the halter-trained yearlings were around 400-500, with some high and low outliers, the saddle-started adults seemed to be 1k-4K (ish). I don’t know a lot about this particular event, some of the lower priced horses may have been unhandled or minimally handled at the start of CFD, as the trainers were putting on demonstrations and might have used horses at various stages of training for that purpose.

I had a formerly feral horse as a teen, the local riding stable used to buy up horses off a native reserve outside Edmonton and then break them to do the dude string rides. Nowadays, a horse like that is called a “wildie” locally, not a mustang.

Horse was tough and surefooted and fast, but she was also a submissive temperament and when I got her, just another greenish but safe enough, head to tail, dude string horse.

I also got to see the fate of several horses that were clearly out of the same herd as my horse. Honestly by the time us kids were buying them, there was nothing about them that was different from any other grade horse (except some of them had really funky conformation).

As far as athletic, that’s going to be the luck of the draw. I would agree that natural selection is going to make them tough, and that constant low level exercise will make them sure footed and develop leg and muscle and good hooves, but not necessarily more than a technically “tame” horse that was raised on rangeland until they were 3 or 4. I do think both ranch raised and feral horses benefit from having more movement earlier on than a paddock or backyard raised foal.

But the things that make for economic and efficient movement in the wild do not necessarily translate to the kinds of “athletic” specialization that we ask for in performance horses.

A few of the isolated bands of horses have an Iberian look and carriage, but I’d want to observe them up close and in direct comparison to a good Andalusian or Lusitano to really say they are equivalent.

The less isolated bands are a real genetic mix, with regional variations. I haven’t seen unmanaged wildies/ mustangs in person, but have always been interested in them because of my first horse. My understanding is that the following characteristics are good survival traits but may not translate to performance horse athleticism: short, low strides; a lowset neck; a shorter neck; smaller overall size (minus a fairly recent influx of draft blood, most feral horse populations end up around the 14.2 hand height, and in more austere conditions like Sable Island or Chincoteague devolve into pony size).

These characteristics might make a really good solid old fashioned ranch working horse, adapated to the terrian it would be used on. But that’s different from making a great jumper, or dressage horse, or even a modern cutting or penning horse.

However, because of the genetic variation from region to region, you do need to look at the horse in front of you. I understand TB stallions were used in the West to breed remount cavalry horses up to the 1930s, so there could definitely be strong lines of TB blood in some mustang populations.

The BLM only passed the first wild horse management act at the end of 1971. Basically I would imagine that up to say the 1970s, when ranch horses started to disappear, that there would be a fairly fluid movement of horses back and forth from feral herds to “tame” and vice versa. Feral herds were a source of free using horses, but also I am sure many horses escaped or were turned out loose when no longer needed.

I too would say that a formerly feral horse that is being resold should cost comparable to a grade horse of similar training and conformation.

Interesting ad on our Craigslist for feral horses:

https://amarillo.craigslist.org/grd/…944959421.html

Those are already started and ready to go on with them.

Interesting, there must be Trainer Incentive Program or something like that (I can’t recall, is there a prison “honor farm” type place near Amarillo?) for the Forest Service horses, too, but I’m not finding any specifics easily.

Check it out…a mustang at 2019 Pony Finals! https://www.theplaidhorse.com/2019/07/29/from-pasture-to-pony-finals-a-girl-and-her-mustang/

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What a wonderful story.

Mr Poppers is a Pony Finals alum, as well! He started as a Mustang Million horse and came from the same adoption I got my first guy at. Very versatile animals :slight_smile:

Looks like they come from this organization:

https://www.friendsofjmha.org/

Hey! I work for the BLM, and while it seems like most people have done a phenomenal job of answering your questions, I figured I may be able to give you a little more input :slight_smile:

You were absolutely correct in calling the BLM and asking about whether the horse was titled. As you mentioned, with most government agencies, they’re slow to get back to you. It doesn’t help that it’s field season, so we’re all just slammed currently. If they don’t get back to you in a week or so, give them a call back and ask to speak to the wild horse and burro specialist directly.

Mustangs vary wildly in temperament and athleticism. Try and find out which HMA (herd management area) the horse came from, as that’s a great place to start. Mustangs from some HMAs are known for their color, others for temperament, etc. etc. etc. The ones that I have known have all been awesome horses with hearts of gold and the willingness to try pretty much anything. If you haven’t yet, I’d highly recommend watching ‘Unbranded’. About a bunch of cowboys who break a string of Mustangs and ride them from Mexico to Canada. Super cool.

If you have any other unanswered questions, please do let me know, I’d be happy to help!

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