I thought it was rather funny you brought up FAKE NEWS… anyways. I don’t doubt anything, I don’t have any info on that and no clue so I can’t comment.
Anyways, I was wondering if you would like to expand on this article to discuss in more in depth.
you know, since this is a discussion board and you have vast experience growing up in the German system and can enlighten us.
Well I get your point… Anything not American is not worthy anyhow and can be ignored…
I actually posted that article because sometimes I have the feeling that things I post are confusing for people because I have a different background and sometimes forget that not everything I write is clear for somebody else. I thought this article is organized and describes everything pretty well… So it could be used to avoid misunderstandings in the future…
This is the response to you saying “the dutch are doing better than the germans” now in your other post 9.
This is arguing against it that.
If this were the case and extended gaits were exemplified by wild horses, the US should be dominating world dressage on BLM mustangs!
I appreciate you trying to be more clear, Manni.
Why not 
I love mustangs!! But really if you look at the origins of Dressage it was always supposed to use the natural abilities of the horse. Of course for centuries specifically the extended gaits (probably mostly the canter) were also used for war purposes… So I don’t really get why now it should focus specifically on collection… And thats why I said I disagree with that…
One thing that jumped out at me: Four lessons a week. Here it’s not unusual for most to only take one lesson a week, maybe two. At least in my area…
Anyone who is interested should read Talent Code by Daniel Coyle. He discuses how certain countries and areas wind up dominating specific sports, calling them “talent hotbeds”.
Collection was essential in dressage all along as a war horse as well as in the high schools- you don’t see the extended gaits as much in the historical records. I’d wager collection was essential to close quartered battles- the spinning was to get away, the kicks were to harm the enemy. There was no battle move based on extended gaits, besides the gallop to travel. Extended gaits take a LOT of energy and serve no real purpose to kill people
Does the SRS show extended gaits? Granted I have only seen snippets of shows and not the total program.
I’m no expert, but I’d re-think the comments here.
The book Commit to Win also talks about why some people succeed and others do not (science based but written in an easy to understand way).
There is far more opportunity for the average person to get good training on good horses, most towns large and small have riding schools with lesson horses, that’s not to say they are all top notch but compared to what we have here or don’t have as few in the USA have access to riding schools with school horses. They have a system for certification of riders. Warmbloods for the most part are the common breed of horse, so most everyone at some point rides one, unlike the USA where stock type breeds, TBs and any number of other breeds are the norm, while WBs are the exception.
Well… I always thought the most important part to win a battle was to ride an attack But very fortunately I never had to fight in a war (with horses) so what do I know…
??? very very sorry but I have no idea what you are reading??? did you really really read my post??? I went back to it to reread it because you confused me. Please do this as well… I think somehow you overlooked that I wrote Dutch horses…
What does the article you posted have to do with Dutch vs German breeding?
I think taking 4 lessons a week is possible because its much more affordable then in the US… These group lessons on lesson horses are still pretty affordable. But unless you own your own horse I don’t know too many people who take 4 lessons a week on a regular basis… Maybe things changed since I was i kid…
BTW a link to a German Riding School (close to the area where I grew up)
http://www.reiterverein-hameln.de/re…tetwieviel.htm
if you buy 10 lessons on a lesson horse you pay 14 Euro for a lesson if you are under 18 and
15 Euro for a lesson as an Adult. If you buy only one lesson you pay 15 Euro if you are under 18. I think that is pretty affordable…
you said
then the scores of the top horses that were in the link say that the numbers don’t support this statement. That the german horses are more numerous in the rankings than dutch.
It’s not my statement, I’m just clarifying what that meant.
Get it now?
nothing. we are taking many tangents- mustangs, war horses,etc. I guess the best thing to do is have a glass of wine and go with it???
Well if we’re on tangents…I can’t even have wine because I’m having surgery tomorrow…maybe I’ll come back after I’ve gotten the pain meds and mix things up. 
Wow! Thanks for sharing.
sorry I don’t think you are clarifying anything. You got everything mixed up… Scribbler and me were talking about horses and Alicien was talking about Rider rankings…
You are welcome, i know that it is very hard to imagine that something like this is possible when you are used to the American System…
These riding schools are Clubs. You have to be a member to ride there (but membership is also very affordable, it used to be about 100 Euro per year.
Also the members are supposed to help with necessary work needed in the club (like a clean up once a year, helping with barn work, giving lessons, helping at shows etc.)
This keeps costs down.
Also if a club offers lessons for the public (offering it for members is considered public because the membership is also needed for insurance) it will get support from the Government.
In Germany sport for the public is considered to be good for everybody (health, mind etc) so the Government supports it.
And a ridingschool with lesson horses will get some support, which also helps them to survive. They are not working for profit but only for public usefulness.
And please there is a difference in Government support for sport for everybody and Government support for the National teams. They are totally separated. These Clubs are supposed to be for everybody. They do not aim for the Olympics…
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