Why aren't Quarter Horses More Popular in the H/J Ring?

I think this is a good example of a QH hunter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llsbxOHJ238
It does the jumpers/eq/and hunter. I am very much a warmblood person (obviously!) but I don’t think I’d mind having this one in my barn.
On a side track- do QH jumpers go in tail braides??

[QUOTE=findeight;4664379]
Far as the USEF rated level at 3’ and above? If many could do it, you would see more out there. There are some. of course.

Hunter people on the Open USEF circuit are notorious about not caring so much about how they are bred. It’s all in the right kind of canter and a great to spectacular jump created by a certain kind of conformation. Some QHs have it. Those can do it. Most do not as it has not been selected for.

Not to be snarkey here, I had a QH Appendix as my first Adult (3’) hunter. But if there are any registered with AQHA (white papers)regularly competing TODAY in the First Year Green, Second Years, Regulars or Jr/AO Hunters at 3’6", 3’9" at 4’ evels or in those Hunter Derbies at the 4’+ level? Who are they?[/QUOTE]

I think it takes a special horse of any breed for the upper level hunters. I had one QH I started in the first years with an unknown pro and he got ribbons and then I had a light bulb moment…it was too expensive and wearing on the horse when I could not jump 3’6" and never intended to. So all doing the divsions for me meant was shelling out a lot of money and making a trainer a good living…so I withdrew my horse and he maintained his status and I had my 3 foot horse for a long time.
My mare I own now is way more talented than me…and she would love hunter derby courses…again…I don’t have the $$$ to campaign like that and again I enjoy riding her. Whenever we are out and about people ask me "Is she a Oldenburg/Tb cross? LOL…I giggle to myself and say no she is quarter horse. She is appendix byt the one parent if TB and the Dam is 100% QH and my mare looks anything but

[QUOTE=RugBug;4663800]
Warmbloods are registries…not breeds, with a few notable exceptions. Totally different ball of wax.

Spmoonie: a warmblood is not a cross between a hot blood and a cold blood (unless you’re one of the less respected registries).[/QUOTE]

I was going more for “warmblooded,” not necessarily a warmblood. :slight_smile:

luvs2ridewbs…very nice!

Something I just remembered…David Connors won the Adequan Hunter Championships at the Marshall & Sterling League National Finals aboard a QH named “Billy Elliott” in 2008.

Regal Lark was a QH stud that won numerous titles in the AQHA Working Hunters, and also did the 1st and 2nd Years out in CA.

Not enough stride and scope for the 3’6 divisions usually, at least the full QH. They do make cute 3 foot horses a lot of times though and in the jumper ring can be somewhat successful as they don’t have to be lofty and slow in the air over the bigger jumps like in the hunter ring. Of course horses like Three’s and Sevens are notable exceptions!

All horses are “warmblooded”. :winkgrin:

The quarter horses are becoming very specialized through the breed. You have the big halter horses (Which if bought as a baby with nice feet they can be very nice pleasure horses I’ve seen it done) then you have your ranch horses which normally have alot of foundation blood and very little thoroughbred (If they do its the old thoroughbred lines) there are the hunters you have two types there the flat and the over fences the flat hunters are smaller flatter kneed & move slower, the over fences hunters are what one typically see’s in a 3’ childrens/ammy’s horse, the western pleasure horses are the typical western horse stocky built and nice smooth slow gaits.

We have a quarter gelding that looks nothing like a quarter, everyone thinks he’s a draft cross: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2253470&l=494756e19b&id=649965585

Then we have my paint that when you see him without tack he screams western pleasure (He has a dreamy jog too) but sadly his canter at an easy pace is a solid 14’ : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4098706&l=49f83662e6&id=649965585
We found him on a local ad, when he had just been pasture trail horse.

Both geldings are nice and easy to work with smooth and I can trust them with anyone plus they both jump around 3’6 easy and love to work.
I think they are good represenatives of the breed & you just have to find the horse thats right for you.

[QUOTE=keepthelegend;4665294]
Not enough stride and scope for the 3’6 divisions usually, at least the full QH. They do make cute 3 foot horses a lot of times though and in the jumper ring can be somewhat successful as they don’t have to be lofty and slow in the air over the bigger jumps like in the hunter ring. Of course horses like Three’s and Sevens are notable exceptions![/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/user/chocolua2
this is one of my favorite QH sires…this was back in 99…he has done the 3’6" easily…and he is QH not appendix

I haven’t read all the replies but this makes alot of sense. I have seen plenty of fancy looking QH’s, most with alot of TB blood, but the breed shows offer alot more for alot less.
I used to ride at a QH barn and the owner used to get off track QH’s and make them up as hunters. They were lovely horses that would have been very good in the H/J world, but she sually sold them to QH breed show riders.
I can see how the “ranch-type” QH or even the tall rangy enormous hipped type might not fly in better h/j company. The ones with alot of TB blood could easily blend in on the A circuit.

[QUOTE=HobbyHorse101;4665313]
The quarter horses are becoming very specialized through the breed. You have the big halter horses (Which if bought as a baby with nice feet they can be very nice pleasure horses I’ve seen it done) then you have your ranch horses which normally have alot of foundation blood and very little thoroughbred (If they do its the old thoroughbred lines) there are the hunters you have two types there the flat and the over fences the flat hunters are smaller flatter kneed & move slower, the over fences hunters are what one typically see’s in a 3’ childrens/ammy’s horse, the western pleasure horses are the typical western horse stocky built and nice smooth slow gaits.

We have a quarter gelding that looks nothing like a quarter, everyone thinks he’s a draft cross: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2253470&l=494756e19b&id=649965585

Then we have my paint that when you see him without tack he screams western pleasure (He has a dreamy jog too) but sadly his canter at an easy pace is a solid 14’ : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4098706&l=49f83662e6&id=649965585
We found him on a local ad, when he had just been pasture trail horse.

Both geldings are nice and easy to work with smooth and I can trust them with anyone plus they both jump around 3’6 easy and love to work.
I think they are good represenatives of the breed & you just have to find the horse thats right for you.[/QUOTE]

Hobby Horse, if your paint horse moves as nice as he jumps, you have a world beater. Good luck with him. That front end:eek:

[QUOTE=findeight;4664379]
Far as the USEF rated level at 3’ and above? If many could do it, you would see more out there. There are some. of course.

Hunter people on the Open USEF circuit are notorious about not caring so much about how they are bred. It’s all in the right kind of canter and a great to spectacular jump created by a certain kind of conformation. Some QHs have it. Those can do it. Most do not as it has not been selected for.

Not to be snarkey here, I had a QH Appendix as my first Adult (3’) hunter. But if there are any registered with AQHA (white papers)regularly competing TODAY in the First Year Green, Second Years, Regulars or Jr/AO Hunters at 3’6", 3’9" at 4’ evels or in those Hunter Derbies at the 4’+ level? Who are they?[/QUOTE]

That really isn’t true. By your logic, the majority of TBs aren’t capable of doing it either then because there aren’t that many out there competing at 3’6". In fact, between the A circuit and the AQHA circuit, there are probably a lot more hunter AQHA horses jumping 3’6" or above than hunter TBs right now.

At the last A show in Raleigh, there wasn’t a single non-WB in the 3’6" or higher classes. Of course, there were actually very few horses that jumped at that height at the show anyway.

[QUOTE=Parrotnutz;4665331]
http://www.youtube.com/user/chocolua2
this is one of my favorite QH sires…this was back in 99…he has done the 3’6" easily…and he is QH not appendix[/QUOTE]

Very nice horse. That fake tail is a little much for me though. It looks like it is meant for a horse twice the size and should be weighing him down :eek:

I have two QHs. One is appendix, and looks like an appendix. His QH side is bred to run as well, so there is more than his fair share of TB in there. He is SO tight with his little knees over a fence. I love it. A bit of a wingnut sometimes though.

My other guy, full AQHA, looks nothing like a QH and people are always surprised when they find out what he is. He is bred to run though, so has a lot of TB blood in him. He looks like a WB to me, complete with a set of nice big feet on him. But he does have a very sweet and sensible QH temperament.

Neither of mine have those wimpy little feet that the breed tends to be known for. I wouldn’t have bought them if they did. Neither are downhill whatsoever either.

I’m surprised he can get over the jumps with that tail. :eek: :lol:

That’s actually the first video on this thread that I’ve liked.

(To be fair, I’ve thought the tail thing about most of the videos posted. Good lord…those fake tails are ridiculous.)

[QUOTE=RugBug;4665369]
I’m surprised he can get over the jumps with that tail. :eek: :lol:

That’s actually the first video on this thread that I’ve liked.

(To be fair, I’ve thought the tail thing about most of the videos posted. Good lord…those fake tails are ridiculous.)[/QUOTE]

hehehe…that tail goes to versatility of the breed…to be able to jump being weighed down, LOLOL

While there are more and more fake tails showing up on USEF at least we know not to weigh them down…the AQHA people do a little too much for sure…but are starting to get better.
I have always owned Appendix or full QH;s myself…but I cannot handle the “lope” they do. Recnetly intalking with AQHA pros tnow that they are breeding more specifically for the large hunter horse they are realizing that you cannot bottle them up somuch…but it is a slow change…here in NJ it is terrible so far…
Years ago I tried to show AQHA with one of mine…did the hunter hack and when the judge said “hand gallop” I did…OOPS:eek:

[QUOTE=RugBug;4665297]
All horses are “warmblooded”. :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

Very funny. ;):lol::lol:

[QUOTE=Horseforthecourse;4665340]
Hobby Horse, if your paint horse moves as nice as he jumps, you have a world beater. Good luck with him. That front end:eek:[/QUOTE]

Thank you, and he’s getting there, he just recently got that nice jump last spring summer when we started putting bigger fences in front of him & I learned to stay way out of his way. We took him to world last summer he got three top tens and a top five. He’s truly amazing I cannot believe how lucky I am to have found him & him turn out as talented as he is :yes:

[QUOTE=RugBug;4665369]
I’m surprised he can get over the jumps with that tail. :eek: :lol:

That’s actually the first video on this thread that I’ve liked.

(To be fair, I’ve thought the tail thing about most of the videos posted. Good lord…those fake tails are ridiculous.)[/QUOTE]

First video, or first horse?

First video for sure.

First horse I wouldn’t mind taking home with me.

Actually, if you look at his pedigree, he’s half TB. They can get full QH papers if they earn enough ROM points. Nice horse!

[QUOTE=BybeeGirl;4663427]
While I found watching that video extremely annoying with the slow-mo and super short jumping clips, I must say I love the jump on that grey horse… Would have that one in my barn in a heartbeat![/QUOTE]

I have a “Sky’s Blue Boy” out of a TB mare-in my barn. Owned by a younger Adult Amateur. He has a great jump and always on top in the hack. Several people, including our vet, have mistaken him for an Oldenburg. I would take 20 of his brothers…