Why do some people refer to a horse as an "it"?

Why do some people refer to a horse as an “it”? You’ve probably heard this before. Examples: I wanted watch it go. I’m going to have it vetted. It has a nice way of going. I tried it out and loved it. It went really well for me.

Why IT? Usually people know the gender, esp., if they have dealt with them in any way, ridden them, . . . Even if you don’t, why IT? Just doesn’t sound right and a bit disrespectful, imo. The traditional default, historically at least, would be “he” if in doubt (or she is good, too, of course).

Your opinion? Thanks.

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I have no idea, but I’m so glad I’m not the only one who is annoyed by this. I guess I get it if you don’t know the gender, but when they say “this is an 11yo Holsteiner mare blahblahblah…it has a really nice jump” just makes me feel like the commentators/whoever else speaks like that view the horse as a disposable object. Like they don’t have any kind of attachment or at least working relationship with their own horses.

Who knows, maybe I’m way off base and am making stuff up in my head, but that’s how it feels to me.

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Sometimes use “it” because I do not care to reveal too much info about an IRL horse or its owner/trainer to live forever on the internet. Prefer to discuss general situations, not participants.

Sometimes I use “it” when posters don’t share horse’s gender as they wish to remain anonymous, often to avoid barn drama. Many more people read these forums then you realize and its often not hard to figure out IRL identity. And once that gets shared, that thread will pop up on a Google search for that person forever.

If you want honest feedback that many others can learn from? And to stay safe (lots of weirdos out there) Dont share too many details.

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Findeight,

Great, valid & professional point, thanks. I’ll keep that in mind. I could surely see that.

It strikes me much more when people actually name the horse then say, “When I tried IT out . . . “ It seems arrogant, cold, disconnected, dismissive & . . . lots of other things. Yet, people have pictures of their Its on their shelves & walls. Huh? People profess to love their horses yet call them an It? Odd.

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Actually, historically animals did not receive gendered pronouns; it was correct to refer to them as “it” due to the bias they were not human. However, style books are beginning to allow the use of gendered pronouns when the animal is “known” (has a name and, assumedly, there is an emotional attachment).

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Partly it’s just common vernacular of the horse world; one of those linguistic oddities particular to an industry. Another example would be “jumps good”. We are all educated enough to say jumps well, but no one does.
Equally though, ease of reference. No one is going to refer to their own horse, or one with which they have a long term or close relationship, as “it”, but, dealing with or speaking of hundreds of horses, way easier not to bother with gender unless there is a specific reason to state it. Speaking of someone else’s horse in a virtual forum, where there’s definitely no relationship? It’s essentially a hypothetical horse.
There is also a desired degree of detachment. You can’t try a horse without that, evaluate a horse professionally, or allow an attachment to develop to an animal that isn’t going to be a long term partner. That’s hard for people that are inclined to become attached to horses, which is just about everyone involved with horses, so a linguistic barrier sometimes develops, consciously or unconsciously. Sales horses, catch rides, horses that belong to flakey clients, horses that have lives over which you have no control; none of those can exist in the same mental space as personally connected horses without creating a very unhealthy mental state.
Thinking further, I don’t think one is inclined to gender any animal in speech without that closer relationship, but again that might be specific to people in animal related industries; I have no way of personally making the distinction. If I were describing a dog with whom I had no connection though I would definitely say “it peed on your tack room drapes”, even when, clearly, that dog is male.

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Historically animals would have been ‘it’, so there is a large carryover there; and actually still are: “the bird flew into the window; it was stunned” for example. In many agricultural industries, as @CBoylen says, you need that disengagement. And in hypotheticals or situations where the gender is either unknown or shouldn’t be revealed; ‘it’ makes sense.

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Honestly, I don’t take it personally. My horse doesn’t speak English and doesn’t know how she’s referred to. She just wants me to be kind and consistent and bring lots of cookies. It bothered me a lot more when my MIL referred to my toddler-age DD as an it - “Isn’t it cute?”

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a horse’s gender is a pretty big component of their personality. To de-gender a horse is a way to disregard them having a personality. To objectify them.

edit: so yesterday, at lesson, my coach commented that i allowed my horses to have a personality, to express a point of view, to ask a question and that was probably one of the reasons they weren’t (volatile? don’t remember what word she used) She said that many riders are ‘totalitarian’ with their horses.
For me, what i’m-in-it-for is the conversation. I love talking to horses/communicating with them. Riding is only one form of that, and dressage is becoming a second language i’m learning to speak with them. It is so fun.

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well, we can also anthropomorph them.
wiht all the consequences
Like astronomical vet bills for lost causes, and the duty to live when euthanasia would be kinder.

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I’ve never met a horse who cared about being referred to by the correct gender. It’s really not that big of a deal, honestly.

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I feel like I mostly hear this in conversation when people are talking about a horse they don’t know well, like telling a story about someone else’s horse, or a pro riders horse or something. I don’t feel like I hear it as often when they’re referring to like their own horse or their students horse unless it’s in a joking manner like “it doesn’t wanna get out of bed today” or something.

I guarantee no horse cares tho lol

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i don’t know about people in the horse world because i have zero social contact with them. But i wonder if it’s like some of the dog trainers i know/bump elbows with. Some of the women are all-tough when talking with other trainers about their dogs, they will refer to them using negatives (butthead/ass;;;e, etc) They handle them rather distantly when in company of other trainers. They butch-it-up, act callous… and i think (?) maybe they think it makes them look more…professional? hardened? man-like? military? old-school? Dunno what / why they do it, but it is definitely a thing.

Whet you do with your horse in your situation is fine. Dont know you or the horse and if I see a picture or answer a question on here, don’t think it degenders or offends the horse at all or draws any conclusions about its horesenality to call it “it”. Its not personal.

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I know a trainer who has probably consistently the happiest group of horses I’ve ever met and she refers to them as “it” quite frequently, in a endearing way. It’s hard to convey without being able to hear tone of voice, but she adores all the horses in her care, and they her, so it really doesn’t mean a lot what pronoun someone uses to refer to their horse.

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This for sure.

I have one trainer who is always using the wrong pronouns for my horse. I don’t bother correcting them. My horse can not understand the wrong pronoun.

I developed a habit of using gender neutral terms (like it, they, etc) around dogs, which flowed over into my horse life because there are lots and lots of dog owners who get very offended if you use the wrong pronoun when talking about Fido. No one seems to get offended if you use something neutral.

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Generally avoid pronouns defining gender with humans these days as well.

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