the second paragraph seemed a bit much. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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You are the one who posted just to tell someone their post did not matter and they are a troll.
(Disclaimer, I do not have any known/remembered history with the person you are pouncing on so maybe that is why I am not so off the deep end about their relatively simple post here.)
I never said that, read it again. I asked what the point of that comment was or if it was trolling. Seems kind of trollish to comment about a totally unrelated show program happening in the posters area and encourage them harass the participants and to say “dare ya to wear a mask”. But OK. I am not familiar with their post history either but seeing as you quote every single post I make it makes me think you are following mine a little too closely.
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I pretty much quote anything I am directly answering.
I typically do not pay attention to who the poster is. I actually make a point to read posts with out paying a lick of attention to who posted it.
I read the mask comment as that poster pointing out that big shows in other disciplines were still happening and at the other shows most people did not even bring up the whole mask wearing thing. In other words, making the point that this thread is about, that because one show is cancelled does not mean they all will be, and some will even not follow the most basic rules that are being required at the one the OP is upset about taking place.
Maybe I am wrong, and that is not what that poster meant. But I certainly did not read it as a troll post.
I apologize for making it sound that way. I felt the OP was harshly criticizing event organizers’ sincere efforts to have the safest outcomes possible. As with horses I like to catch someone doing right.
Well, here goes. My second paragraph was meant to demonstrate that many other horse events refuse to follow very simple state guidelines and harass those who do. Obviously I failed. There are huge portions of the horse community who are not taking the massive precautions of event venues. You cannot even police them. For example, the sheriff in the county where my cousin farms forbade his staff from masking. The mask hostility in rural areas is as frightening as the virus. My vet friend who practices in rural El Dorado county has been called a sheeple even by children. My trainer was followed around in an Ace hardware store by a man and his wife. Event organizers and their ahem volunteers are bending over backwards to let those who elect to participate have a safe competition. They do not deserve to be attacked when others are going on as usual.
@trubandloki @Brown Derby thank you for clarifying. Sorry to insinuate it was a troll post.
I still dont think its pointless for one to complain about one show and not the others (especially when they may not know about the others). Any limiting of the spread we can do is good in my eyes.
That being said I don’t agree with the tone of the original post attacking the organizers. That doesn’t help anyone or out sport. There are better channels to voice your concern. Also, wear a mask
Of course. Was looking for clarity on how you felt it applied in the case of RF. Data? Personal experience? Or bias? If it was just a flip remark, it does a huge disservice to a lovely, well run event.
Organizers who care about their communities see below and Robert is about the almighty dollar which is why he took entries after closing date during a pandemic.
Let it be said now… WTF was he thinking?
This article will be updated to include statements as they are released from upcoming USEA recognized events regarding actions they are taking due to the coronavirus (COVID-19).
Read the statement from USEA here, the US Equestrian (USEF) here, and the statement from FEI here. [HR][/HR]
August 7-9: Area VII Young Rider Benefit Horse Trials - Canceled
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August 15-16: Metamora Hunt II Pony Club Horse Trials - Canceled
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August 16: Huntington Farm Horse Trials - Canceled
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August 25-30: USEA AEC, $60,000 Adequan Advanced Final, and ATC Finals - Canceled
Cancellation Press Release
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September 4-6: Aspen Farms Horse Trials - Canceled
Released July 10
To our hardworking volunteers, loyal sponsors, enthusiastic competitors, amazing officials, and dedicated staff:
Aspen Farms HT, September 4-6, has been canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Since having to cancel our June HT here at Aspen Farms we have been watching the situation closely. The health and safety of everyone involved with our competition is of the utmost importance to us at Aspen Farms. Unfortunately, the situation in the entire U.S. has not improved and in Washington State we are on hold, statewide, to progress into phase 4. Additionally, we are not comfortable opening our farm for the competition and running the risk of spreading the virus any further. Thank you to everyone that is a part of making our event what it is. We hope you and your families remain healthy during this time and look forward to seeing you out eventing in the near future.
Jonathan and Suzy Elliott
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September 12-13: Poplar Place Farm September Horse Trials - Canceled [HR][/HR]
September 12-13: Coconino Spring Horse Trials (Rescheduled from May 23-24) - Canceled
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September 18-20: Equestrians’ Institute Horse Trials - Canceled
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September 20: Marlborough Horse Trials - Canceled
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September 26-27: University of New Hampshire Horse Trials - Canceled
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October 3: Willow Draw Charity Show - Canceled [HR][/HR]
October 3-4: Horse Trials at Majestic Oaks - Canceled
Organizers who care about their communities see below and Robert is about the almighty dollar which is why he took entries after closing date during a pandemic.
Let it be said now… WTF was he thinking?
https://useventing.com/news-media/news/event-responses-to-coronavirus-covid-19
You clearly have an axe to grind.
If you are so upset why don’t you just contact Robert instead of spewing venom on a BB? You clearly don’t know Robert at all if this is what you think.
Woodside isn’t the only Area VI event still running this month. Why single it out?
If you go to the production company’s website (https://www.westpalmsevents.com/silicon-valley-equestrian-festival-1/) there is no mention of their COVID requirements. That would make me suspect of their desire to be compliant.
:lol::lol::lol: wrong event, but what the heck let’s blame it on that evil genius Kellerhouse
I volunteered at the Galway event last month. I felt significantly safer than I do in the grocery store and will be volunteering again next weekend at a dressage show being run there. At the event, in general, COVID rules were followed and there were reminders from event officials regarding distancing and masks when people forgot. Office functions were minimized and handled through a window. There was almost no indoor interactions and stabling was spaced out too. There were no spectators or random extra people hanging around. I heard the county came and inspected things on Saturday and changes were made on Sunday to ensure compliance with their requirements (e.g. no truck rides out to their jumps for jump judges). USEF requires that shows abide by their local laws and restrictions, which is why some events get cancelled while others don’t (both in the same state and between different states) - they are in different counties with different regulations. I have not been to Woodside, but the size of the venue really isn’t relevant if it is still possible to stay outdoors, distanced from others not in your normal contact group, and mask are required.
I have no idea about the cancellation policy, but typically it is stated somewhere so people can make their own decisions prior to entering. I chose not to enter a show run by a different organization earlier this year because the cancellation policy, while understandable from a show organizer’s perspective, was not worth the financial risk for me personally. Each person can and should evaluate and make their own decisions, rather than complaining about the policy, IMO. I also have no idea what accepting entries after the closing date has to do with cancellation policies or COVID safety??
Would it have been safer to have cancelled? Absolutely. That doesn’t mean Woodside hasn’t taken the necessary precautions to make the event as safe as possible. I was really impressed by what they’ve done in response to COVID. I have a few friends who decided to compete because they felt it was safe enough.
The term shit show seems rather harsh to me, given the effort they’ve put into keeping competitors and volunteers safe. I have a feeling this is more about a bone to pick with someone, and less about the event.
I’m fine with a no refund policy as long as riders are aware of it before signing up. It’s their choice, they know the risks.