Three years later 
Now I have tried the Millbrook, TSF, and Ovation ones. The only ones I would buy again are the Ovation. The Millbrook aren’t the quality the price would suggest and stretched like crazy. The TSF were cheaper but also not amazing quality and started off too long for me to begin with. The Ovation ones are quality that match the price point and don’t seem to have stretched the way the Millbrook ones have. Do they look like $200 leathers, no? But are they $200 leathers? Also no. I think they are reasonable bang for the buck and hold up well for what they cost.
Also, having seen how the owner of Millbrook behaves on social media, I’m not looking for excuses to patronize her business if I have alternatives.[quote=“vxf111, post:28, topic:446969, full:true”]
Three years later 
Now I have tried the Millbrook, TSF, and Ovation ones. The only ones I would buy again are the Ovation. The Millbrook aren’t the quality the price would suggest and stretched like crazy. The TSF were cheaper but also not amazing quality and started off too long for me to begin with. The Ovation ones are quality that match the price point and don’t seem to have stretched the way the Millbrook ones have. Do they look like $200 leathers, no? But are they $200 leathers? Also no. I think they are reasonable bang for the buck and hold up well for what they cost.
Also, having seen how the owner of Millbrook behaves on social media, I’m not looking for excuses to patronize her business if I have alternatives.
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Updating. Yesterday my Ovation leathers disintegrated mid-ride and I almost fell. They didn’t wear out or tear— the stitching just gave out and the nylon core inside had frayed. I was dismayed—they just fell apart! And I take good care of my leathers and they were not old/overused. I can’t recommend them anymore.