So it’s more a critisism of federal government, v. state government? (Libertarian) And not anti government?
I had friends who were anarchists. Now that’s scary! 
If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin’- A Cowboy’s Guide to Life
You cannot white wash the world, nor should you try. It is an ugly place and cannot be made beautiful by throwing a couple layers of makeup and lacquer on it. A thin veneer is worse than letting the differences and ugliness show. There’s no honesty in the former.
I say let people be people and judge them for who they are. (How they think, behave and live.)
Same with horses and judging. Everyone has a right to an opinion, and we pay the judges for theirs, so it’s all subjective and political correctness would just open up our sport to more ridicule as well as more cry babies.
It is what it is. Don’t make excuses for it. If you really want to make a change, don’t cover it over, expose it and change it.
JMHO
It’s all about ME, ME, ME!!! (The only signature worthy of a real DQ.)
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sandbarhorse:
Please note- the dodgeball ban was just an example, I never intended for this to become a dodgeball thread! 
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Too late. I intend to sue. Riley could you start doing your lawyer stuff on my behalf. 
That was the exact point I was trying to make. Instead of a sudden cut off, leaving the family with zilch they should have it so they can have a little leeway. Even a 50 cent raise per hour helps out yes, but it’s not enough to enable you to buy your own insurance in all instances. They’ve decided that the poverty level for 2 people is, I believe, $793? Somewhere around there. I know it’s $700 something. But even for a family of just 2, living in a cheap apartment eating ramen noodles, there isn’t enough money to pay for utilities, food, gas, rent, car payment, car insurance, daycare if you need it, and regular old spending money. with the school loan I have, and car payments (no I do not drive a nice car, it’s a 1990 chevy beretta) car insurance, daycare and credit card bill I have, there’s not a whole lot left over when the bills are paid, but if I were to apply for medicaid they would say I have more than enough money by thier standard. Therefore, if I needed benefits, I couldn’t get them because my paychecks say I have enough. Luckily, I still live with my parents so I can get myself out of debt before I go out into the “real world”, which is a major lifesaver. But I have to think about those people who DON’T live with anyone, just themselves, and are expected to make it just fine after they hit the peak of $793 a month. That’s what my point is.
And heidi, I didn’t say I follow blindly and agree with everything my party does/say. yes it is a republican ran government at the moment, but what can I say? I can keep writing my congressman and working, but until I’m president there’s not a lot I can do And yes, it was liberals who started the welfare programs, but the libs then and the libs now were two totally different species of apples from the same tree. (IMO, correct me if I’m wrong)
“I ain’t got a dime but what I got is mine; I ain’t rich, but Lord, I’m free.”
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jl:
…we have killer BBQ! Ribs,brisket,sausage-you name it, we got it!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tofu?
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jl:
Good, I m glad that you’re getting help if you need it. I wonder which administration reinstated benefits? I certainly can’t judge _your situation_but me, I’ve asked for government assistance once in my life, and I was so embarrassed I hustled my arse to get 2 jobs before the next food stamp go-round. The jobs were awful, which inspired me to go back to school. And so on…it s the American way, you know. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There’s where you said you got taxpayer assistance…since after all it is everyone’s money paying for everything.
“I ain’t got a dime but what I got is mine; I ain’t rich, but Lord, I’m free.”
Fantastic!!! Thats what it is all about! I take off my Charles owen Skull cap to you!!! BRAVO!!!
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” Benjamin Franklin, 1755
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I have to agree that some of the questions bear asking.
I have heard recently that dodge ball was banned in a nearby school district because it could create issues of inferiority in children who were not as athletic as the others.
I think that this attitude has spread and that we risk our children having to suffer major shell shock when they findout that they are not as good as others at SOME things. They will not realize that they need to find what they are BETTER at or work that much harder. This, however, does not apply to children who are too young to understand that “practice makes perfect”.
I would be disgusted if a hired an employee in a few years who was mentally destroyed because someone else got a promotion or who couldn’t understand that you have to work hard to reach the level where you are my equal in work related situations. A person who can’t understand that I will not “dumb down” the work to their level will make me sad, but I will hire someone who can do it or will work harder until they can do it and say “adios” to the whiner.
Wrong. Teachers on average work between 45 and 55 hours a week. The ones I have encountered have been lucky enough to work in my town, where we value our education enough to pay our teachers nice salaries. Even they work MUCH longer than 9 to 3. Who do you think corrects papers, prepares lessons, works out student problems, and meets with individuals ALL THE TIME?
Sorry this is way OT but it kind of pisses me off hearing someone who (normally) isn’t totally uninformed ranting off about how easy a teacher’s life is. It’s not as cushy as you’d like to think.
EMMA
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cweimer:
First, if this isn’t the function of {Federal} government, then I’m not really sure what it is . . . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Defense and infrastructure. Pretty much end of story.
Just because you’re not paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.
Hey, Sannois, can we trouble you to shorten your signature? We like to encourage people to keep it to four lines or less.
(You could easily fit that quote on four lines, if you just didn’t hard-return at the end of each line… email me if you want me to fix it for you.)
i love that you watch Frontline! thanks for the kind words about our two September 11 documentaries. (not sure if you know that i work for frontline, producing their web sites)
I did, in fact, produce the site on the war in Afghanistan, and am proud of both our films and online reporting.
And, to bring this back to horses, on the web site for “Campaign Against Terror” there is a hysterical story about a Special Forces soldier that gets run away with by when he is riding on horseback with the Northern Alliance.
It’s on this page… you have to scroll down a little…web page
This is what was driving me nuts was that no one wanted to ACKNOWLEDGE that it is a problem.
I don’t know what the answer is. I think a graduated system would be better than BAM instant cut off, that’s for sure. Like I said, how can you replace the assistance w/ an extra 20 cents an hour? I think they should start your assistance at a certain rate, and when your wages go up your assistance STARTS to go down. This would at least work for food stamps, possibly medicaid (they kind of already do it. They have higher copays when you make more money, but the copays aren’t outrageous, they’re like $20. Seems to work alright, but since the wage you have to make to get the assistance is already so low, the people paying the copays barely have enough for that. Raising the level of income considered poverty would help quite a few families out to truly get on thier feet. You’re right about the starving kids thing. No need for it with all the help that IS available.
“I ain’t got a dime but what I got is mine; I ain’t rich, but Lord, I’m free.”
nope, the world isn’t going to perfect all the time. also, “for every winner there is a loser” that’s life. i don’t think that horseback riding in anyway should be dummed-down (though i think it’s already happening to eventing 
) i think it’s okay if little kids all get blue ribbons, because they’re not old enough to be competitive. at one show, they gave all the leadline kids blue ribbons, and one girl started crying because she wanted a pink ribbon i’m going to leave it at that 
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You don’t think rigorous education and competition have anything to do with each other??? Where did you go to school? Covert competition is the most ruthless.
Consider this, a group that is “different”, wants to be accepted ,inspite of their differences. Okay, I have no problem with that. What makes me crazy, is after there is acceptance, then this group want to be treated like they are the same. So which is it? Are they different or the same? Is acceptance the same as ignoring? This seems like fuzzy logic to me.
FYI, I am a born and raised California liberal, never voted Republican (but lately can’t bring myself to vote Democrat). I want to make the world a good place for everyone (me included). I have a real problem with anyone playing both sides of the fence, especially at others expense.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Why should we have to pay for all of the single mothers and their children? Haven’t they heard of birth control? Or how about adoption? Or living with their families to get support from them? [QUOTE]
Birth control - do you not live in a nation who’s president now only wants to fund school programs which advocate abstinence? How accessible is birth control to many of the young girls in the U.S.? I’d also point out that for many, though it’s a wonderful notion, living with family is not an option.
Furthermore, and personally-speaking, I’d rather live in a society which recognizes that the children of these pilloried single mothers are the future by affording them a decent education, health care, food, a roof over their heads. You know, the luxuries.
[QUOTE] And as for the homeless, what we as individuals need to do is give them opportunities (not necessarily have the government give them a handout) and if they CHOOSE not to take it, then they stay homeless. If they take advantage of the opportunity, then they should no longer be homeless or penniless. [QUOTE]
You assume that the homeless are sane. Many are not, and in fact, are left homeless because there is little funding remaining for psychiatric care, both in Canada and the U.S., and hence, no beds, no true psychiatric services, lots of homeless people roaming the streets. And again, a quaint notion but there are few publically-funded services dedicated to educating the current homeless population – and I won’t even mention the lack of corporate willingness to employ the newly-educated homeless.
[QUOTE] Why is it the government is tasked with taking care of everyone? Especially the national government? (I refuse to argue partisanship–it’s not the point out here.) Shouldn’t that be something for individuals or non-government organizations? If we took away government run social welfare programs and instead pushed people into making contributions on their own to individuals, wouldn’t that have the potential of making us more caring toward our fellow citizens who are less fortunate? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And herein the anarchy. Many people can’t manage to balance their cheque books, over-spend on credit cards, mortgage their lives away, do you really believe that an a la carte approach to social welfare programs would work? Do believe though that this stresses the importance of voting, both locally and nationally, so that our voice is somehow heard and our values reflected in public policy.
I didn’t see your answer-thanks! A goal for me to work towards.
Question TJO-am I automatically supposed to support the invasion of Iraq since W is pushing for it?
You said the following Maggymay:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ditto. That’s fanaticism <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I call it fascism.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yd:
Best thread ever!
Better than Jerry Springer!
What’s next?!
Banning pedophiles from the pony ring ingate?
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Glad to Hear your back to your old self YD. Although, I am sick of TALKING about Banning pedophiles from the pony ring.
DMK and Ghazzu, there is nothing about getting mercy Cs that makes someone “underqualified” compared to any other A or B student. Theoretically speaking, of course.
The ‘dumbing’ down of eventing mentioned by others reminds me of the dumbing down of the Grands Prix in many situations. You can read a course designer who says, ‘I wanted the course to be technical for the experienced horses but not kill the green horses or the amateurs.’ Well excuse me! It is a 50,000 class! Perhaps the greenies and the amatuers would be better served getting their Grand Prix feet wet in a smaller class!
I don’t think this is a case of PC though, I think it is a case of money.
Just because you’re not paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.
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