WILL/SHOULD THE HORSE WORLD BECOME POLITICALLY CORRECT?

[Snowbird]

During the days of the depression when the northeast was almost solid immigrants we produced more great musicians, writers, artists and even politicians than we did homeless. Sure we were poor, but that was no excuse to be homeless, dirty or stupid or even on welfare.

I remember what my mom could do with a pot of bones and some vegetables to make a dinner. Yes, you didn’t get your own bedroom, no you didn’t have an entitlement to a car at 17, everyone worked 3 jobs to pay the rent and if you were lucky a chicken lasted a whole week for everyone.

We are all the masters of our fate and we can find solutions if we want to succeed. The ones you see are people who have been abused, neglected and maybe persecuted or are diadvantaged. They deserve and need our help because it wasn’t their own fault. They somehow got cheated and we are the lucky ones we have to share our good fortune with them and give them a hand up not out.

[nhwr]

First let me say I like your posts because they are thought provoking.

Second, Thomas Jefferson (among others) was a slave owner. The “some animals are more equal than others” thing is an Orwellian reference from “Animal farm” to socialism.

Third, there are 2 instances of the Hydra in greek mythology that I know of. In one, Hera created the beast to kill Hercules. It was many headed. Whne one head was lopped off, 2 more would replace it. In another, it protected the golden fleece. When its teeth hit the ground, they would act as seeds to produce more beasts, hence the phrase “The teeth of the hydra”

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MB Stark:
OK Now when is the BBQ for the left wing pot smoking liberal hippie Earth Firsters taking place???I have to clear my calendar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your house, this weekend. I’m driving your way Friday! I’ll bring the brownies.

[suzy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heidi:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>LCD that we are now in 9th place (heck, maybe even lower) education-wise in this country. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

At the same time that we moan and complain about taxes, we point accusatory fingers at this mythic PC movement for the decline in educational standards. Want better education on offer, elect conscientious congressmen, senators; choose a president who can, at the least, identify Peru on a world map.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, point well taken. OTOH, I always vote. Has it helped? Not as far as I can see. Re: the poster who mentions our tax dollars going into bailing out companies whose execs have “massaged the books” to their own personal financial benefit - I absolutely do not have the answer and am incensed by the whole situation just the way I was incensed by the banking shenanigans a decade ago. And it just goes on and on…

Um, sorry. I am way off topic here, but this is just something that makes me crazy.

[elizabeth]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jl: I was so hoping for a good debate. . . All that these fine conservatives out there in cyber land seem capable of doing is posting the equivalent of the following:
Poster 1: Liberals are responsible for all the ills of America. They suck. . . . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I’m not actually a conservative, but I tend to think conservatively, so I’ll speak up here:
There are very few instances where the liberal and conservative arguments and counter-arguments are easy to make in a two or three paragraph post on the internet.

The one noteable exception is with respect to Former President Bill Clinton. Conservatives can decimate him in one quick jab just by reminding the liberals that he perjured himself. PERJURED HIMSELF!!! People - PERJURY!!

So, knowing that I really can’t do justice with respect to the issues of “political correctness” or “racial profiling” or things of that ilk in a short enough form to post here, I often times just refrain from saying much of anything.

[hobson]

I most certainly am not. Come on, jl, how could I make this up? It was in the international news last week. As in, no other nation’s journalists could quite comprehend not getting the phone when Nelson Mandela calls.

Which is not to say that Mr Clinton did not do idiot stuff to other world leaders, of course.

[Sannois]

{In with the good air… out with the bad!} DEEEEP Breaths! Sheesh I was only gone 3 hours and 3 more pages appeared. Who’s got the ball???

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” Benjamin Franklin, 1755
Founding member of The Fossils over Fences Clique!

[HeyYouNags]

I would probably be one of those bulls (horses?) in the stable that Hercules was supposed to spend eternity cleaning.

And I’d have a lot of fellow BBers for company.

[Pixie_Dust]

Why on earth would someone have the need to lock a thread…unless of course you are one of the lovely moderators and deem it necessary for the welfare of the BB.

If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin’- A Cowboy’s Guide to Life

[Pixie_Dust]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sandbarhorse:
I have 2 things that I MUST say:

1. Why has noone answered my question about why dodgeball is any worse for the chubby/geeky kid(see SBH in 5th grade)than football or soccer?

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Well, in my school EVERYONE had to play dodgeball. Everyone was never forced to play football or soccer, that was a “sign up” sort of dealie. We did as a class try and learn how to play lacrosse, but never got into a real game. (No one could get the “cradling” thing.) Like I said before, I don’t think it should be banned, but I think it should be a volunteer game. Let the others do something else.

If you get to thinkin’ you’re a person of some influence, try orderin’ somebody ELSE’s dog around- A Cowboy’s Guide to Life

[elizabeth]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jl:
And oh elizabeth I appreciate your input but whenever conservatives attempt to beat me up with:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Conservatives can decimate him in one quick jab just by reminding the liberals that he perjured himself. PERJURED HIMSELF!!! People - PERJURY!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just whisper Watergate-the _ Iran contra affair_ and they rapidly retreat. The Democrats don t have the market on lying to the American people.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Luckily, JL, the radical right has a response to that - the Republicans all HELD THEIR RESPECTIVE NOSES after the two fiascos you mentioned. They didn’t continue to blindly support the person(s) directly at issue (at least with respect to the first fiasco) nor did they ELECT THE WIFE of said person!

Now, hopefully we will go no further with this albeit fun political discussion. The reality is that short of reminding people who voted for Clinton the second time that they voted for Clinton the second time, I have a limited ability to discuss political scandals!

[Miss_Perfect]

C’mon - sounds like good reasons to me! I’m awefully clumsy with phones when I’m getting a manicure, and too comatose to talk during a massage!

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So whoa down MissAlmostPerfecttButt. I wouldn’t be throwing those stones quite so soon. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> jl - I totally agree that stupidity is bi-partisan. As Republican as I am, believeme, I do alot of eyerolling with all politicians. But did I throw stones? Hope not! Didn’t mean to!

PS - my butt is NOT almost perfect. It is as perfect as the rest of me!

[hobson]

OHMYGOD if I was dead I’d be rolling in my grave right now!!! Not Friedman! Everyone who reads Marx figures this out–it’s not just me and Milton, right? Even in English translation it is obvious!

Oh, wait. Friedman is full of crap on that count–according to Marx’s parameters, the Soviets never created a proper socialist state. Therefore, there is no final phase in this instance. The state withering away led not to utopia but to profit-driven chaos.

[HeyYouNags]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> He mounted on a chariot and tamed with the bit the horses of Diomedes, that greedily champed their bloody food at gory mangers with unbridled jaws, devouring with hideous joy the flesh of men. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, maybe I should post this on the SportHorse Breeding board instead.

[Heidi]

You know, Fat Appy, and I make no assumptions that you care one single iota what I think, but when you bandy about the word, “lib”, I swear to gawd I can see the spit airbourne.

Life’s too short, and much too complicated, to assume with such vehemence an us versus them mentality and approach to life. It’s not about the ‘libs’, it ain’t about a fast-fading political zeitgeist, silly government policies which are surely designed to hinder the masses, but about you.

[Heineken]

It is, and will always be a SPORT. There are ALWAYS winners and losers. Even at the Olympics, a bastion of PC-ness, someone wins the gold and others don’t. That is just a silly thought! Leadliners all get blues because they are too little to understand, we, as adults and juniors, should be TAUGHT to accept losing AND winning with equal grace and treat our horses well no matter how we ride!!! We should strive to better our OWN experiences, NOT compare ourselves with others. The ribbons mean nothing in the end if you aren’t learning and improving!

Aqha Clique

[HeyYouNags]

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hobson
Please explain how that non-competitive system failed him?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By making him choose to marry a 60’s-holdover, bleeding heart liberal, silly.

There was another sort of PC at work in the dark ages when I was in school. It was not okay to be a chubby non-athlete (not that I ever took it personally ), but it was also not okay to be a “brain”. In those days, the term PC hadn’t even been invented. Academic de-emphasis or dumbing down was to protect the feelings of the good-looking, athletically-talented sons and daughters of the corporate executives. They needed a good academic record so they could get into law school and follow in their father’s footsteps.

When I think of lowered academic standards, I don’t blame underprivileged or low-income families. I blame well-connected parents who get pi**ed off when their obviously superior offspring isn’t awarded an “A”.

And to carry it over into horses - why worry about standards being lowered to be fair to less talented competitors, when you can already worry about winners being chosen based on who they are, rather than how talented they are?

[danceranddiggety]

you haven’t explained exactly why you think the policies DON’T hold anyone back.Please, leaving out old posts, leaving out any sentances you may find offensive, not making any sense, etc. Pretend that this is my very first post EVER and tell me: When they take away food stamps from a family because they go even a little bit over the limit, what is that family supposed to do? Do they reduce the hours they work so they can stay on food stamps, or do they tighten thier belt even more than it already is and try to feed the kids on the extra 20 cents they make an hour. Tell me how it is that forcing these people to make this decision is NOT holding them back. That’s all I want to know. Can you please answer me?
Sorry Erin, as aforementioned it was a late one last night, (not that that’s any excuse

“I ain’t got a dime but what I got is mine; I ain’t rich, but Lord, I’m free.”

[jl1]

what about my eventing question?

[El_Grande_Stimpendo]

Limbaugh is a circus act.

However…

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hobson:
asked why this paranoid mental patient was permitted to have a radio show? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

‘permitted’??

Left to their own devices, the radio show permit-police would give us something much worse than this bozo.