I’m still going to disagree on the definition, jl.
PC does not create equality under the law, it just gives people new labels. It perpetuates some problems and whitewashes over others.
That’s how I view PC-ness.
It’s all about ME, ME, ME!!! (The only signature worthy of a real DQ.)
I may be a bleeding heart scum suckin give away the store liberal but I try to be polite!
Seriously, I do appreciate the answer. My trainer is a crazed and fearless eventer and while I value these old bones far too much to try and make eventing a habit, I have set a baby green as grass type show as one of the things I like to give myself for my 50th birthday. Plus I hear you guys drink the most and have the best parties!
Is an absolute barrier to accomplishing anything. People need to have an open dialog and be able to ask and seek answers to questions that may not be politically correct. Obviously, if we can’t discuss things because they aren’t PC or if we are afraid to raise points for fear of being called un-PC, we have a problem. For example, a teacher around these parts was reprimanded for using the word niggardley in context with some literature (the word apparently means stingey or cheap). What a damn waste of time.
People should be able to say or do whatever they want, as long as they don’t hurt other people (or the environment!). This line is slowly moving. And that’s really sad.
I heard a lecture on the laws regulating property rights in this country. At first, your land was your land to do whatever with. Next, your land was your land, but, if you wanted to put something up that would physically endanger a neighbor, you couldn’t. Now, if you want to do something that makes your house look different from the neighbor’s house, well, in many cases you can be stopped. So what’s next - are we all going to have to think alike, like our houses must look a like? Are we going to be regulated in our speech? A sad and slippery slope, the fault of conservatives and liberals alike.
The witchy witch witch of south central NC.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Midge:
[ The thing I liked best about the elephants was their tendency to stay out of Other People’s Business. How things have changed.
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Huh???
The party that gave us J Edgar Hoover, Joeseph McCarthy, and the Watergate burglars?
The party that wants to regulate what kind of conversations a woman can have with her health care providers?
Unashamed member of the Arab clique…just settin’ on the Group W bench.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bgoosewood:
It was the other pink fleshy chubby kids who couldn’t run worth a darn…Anyway, I just hate the idea that kids should be forced to play this game. There are other ways to get exersize. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey, I was usually more tan than pink. 
This is a bit of a digression, but I think part of dodgeball issue is, the idea is for otherwise sedentary kids to get exercise (agreeing with bgoosewood here.)
I was one of those kids that was lousy at all the ball sports - dodgeball, kickball, softball, soccer. I just assumed I had no athletic ability whatsoever. It wasn’t until I grew up that I realized that there were sports that I could do well at - they just aren’t the ones kids are made to do in school. (At least, not in the dark ages.) Biking, lifting weights, canoe/kayaking, yes, but no ball sports.
Dodgeball just lets kids enforce the pecking order, without encouraging real exercise.
And, ummm, are we now flaming all disabled people? Because one poster encountered one openly angry disabled person on one occasion? Not that that’s stereotyping or anything…
Having watched my sister struggle with her disabilities, there’s nothing a disabled person could say to me that would compare to what he/she has to live with every hour of every day. Some people really do have it much worse.
You can call me a 60’s-era bleeding heart, and frankly, I’ll be flattered.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emma MHC:
What about when a woman walks by and men catcall or whistle, or make inappropriate comments? Yes, technically that is illegal under the heading of sexual harrassment, but it’s not something that’s often brought to court.
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Quick factoid: that kind of harassment is not illegal. Stupid and primitive, but not illegal. Sexual harassment is considered a civil rights offense. I do believe that the only time you can take someone to court for it is when it occurs in a school or workplace setting. In those cases, you don’t really have a choice whether or not to be there, so when someone demands sex for continued employment or makes your life miserable with constant lewd comments, that’s when it’s actionable.
But wherever it happens, Ghazzu is right in that the first thing you need to do is confront the harasser and demand that they stop. Being able to document repeated requests to the harasser to cease inappropriate behavior has helped many women win their cases.
You cant sum all this up in just a few paragraphs! My head is spinning, I wont even venture into the fight because I think it is a Never ending battle. I will say that there is WAY too much government involvement in America, And I too think that the poor should be cared for by charities Churches etc. I wish Government would Butt out , except for national defence etc. Hobson, I’m certain Hillary Marxist Clinton is your hero, and you have her book on your night stand. And secretly you pray every night that she will run for president in the next election! God help us all! 
“Those who would give up
essential Liberty, to
purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither
Liberty nor Safety” Benjamin
Franklin, 1755
Founding member of The Fossils over Fences Clique!
Emma - my ponies are very interested in social justice issues. And handouts. Very very interested in handouts. So this is, too, horse related.
Hobson, you haven’t bothered to read my posts beyond noting, “Oh, pt = filthy capitalist, must hate the poor and be in favor of all economic and political chicanery.” Apparently, in your world, anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with you must be in support of all that you oppose. That’s stereotyping, Hobson, and pretty far from the PC’ism you tout.
IMO, it doesn’t have to be one extreme or the other. It doesn’t have to be Laissez-Faire Capitalism (which the US does not have) or pure Marxism. There’s a whole socio-economic spectrum between those extremes, and it appears that most of the world, including the US, is groping its way around that spectrum to find a way that actually works for most people most of the time. However, the ambiguity of compromise doesn’t have the fine moral purity which appeals to extremists or those who want simple answers to complex questions.
BTW, I think Mr. Hobson is right - Rush Limbaugh is a parody. Or a joke in incredibly poor taste
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sannois:
Now Can Hobson or someone please explain what she was talking about?? Who is she a collective with?? 
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” Benjamin Franklin, 1755
Founding member of The Fossils over Fences Clique!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, Hobson started as an affinity group, but they got on so well together they decided to make it official. So they had a ceremony (not legally recognized in most states) and now they’re a collective. Got it??
Geeze, I was merrily chuckling away at this thread till someone had to bring up dodgeball 
Dodgeball sucks!
As for the balls we used, they were brutal. They were those horrid, reddish-marroon, rubber monstrousities that had some sort of texture to make them hurt even more. And they were always overinflated so they were rock hard.
The darn game serves no useful purpose! It doesn’t give you excercise. Even if you last the whole game you don’t really get a work out. And the least athletic kids are usually the ones who get knocked out first!
I was probably in the slightly above average group athletically, and I have many happy memories of childhood sports and gym class. But none involve dodgeball.
(Sorry to interrupt this thread with a completely irrelevant dodgeball rant. But dodgeball just plain sucks. 
)
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fat Appy:
I gotta go for a bit, we have to hitch up the mule and go to town for our 6 months supplies since we don’t have supermarkets here in the ol show-me state.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fat Appy:
(1) I have a Fat Appy. His name is “Buster-the-Wonderhorse.” He is both Catholic and Republican. I suspect he is a member of the Radical Religious Right. 
(2) I realize you were joking above, but, let’s be honest - I think if fewer people had 8 t.v.'s in their house and fewer people had supermarkets and McDonald’s within 3 blocks of their home, we’d might well have a healthier population. So, to the extent that I ever get serious about my health, I might come live with you and your mules in Missouri.
Ya’ll are so cute when you get all riled up!
[This message was edited by Jeb on Sep. 09, 2002 at 01:33 PM.]
the only whine I have is a rather tasty Merlot.
And that’s MS Bleeding heart scum suckin give away the store liberal, to you Missy!
Yes ma’am… Back to horses…
I don’t think the subjective horsesports will ever be politically correct. Too much tradition. If I showed a Morgan in Palm Beach - found every distance perfectly (yeah right), and he snapped his little wheels like “Rox Dene” we’d still never see a ribbon. And I wouldn’t expect to see a ribbon!
On the other hand at Morgan Nationals he might not win either, in front of “Morgan judges.”
Join me my BB friends for a rousing Devo singalong!
whip it
crack that whip
give the past the slip
step on a crack
break your momma’s back
when a problem comes along
you must whip it
before the cream sits out too long
you must whip it
when something’s going wrong
you must whip it
now whip it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it’s not too late
to whip it
whip it good
when a good time turns around
you must whip it
you will never live it down
unless you whip it
no one gets away
until they whip it
i say whip it
whip it good
i say whip it
whip it good
crack that whip
give the past the slip
step on a crack
break your momma’s back
when a problem comes along
you must whip it
before the cream sits out too long
you must whip it
when something’s going wrong
you must whip it
now whip it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it’s not too late
to whip it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it’s not too late
to whip it
whip it good
Whoops, wrong thread.
“Me thinks” I left part of that signature in there by accident, but now that you point it out, the whole thing is even better.
Fat Appy: if they run you out of Mo you can come to Va. where there a lot more of “our kind” You know, those card carrying coservatives that believe you ought to get to keep what you work for, leave it to your children and take responsibility for your own actions…AND have the right to have hard times as a kid and not get everything you want…only what you need. What will happen to all those kids that grow up w/out ever being disappointed, sad, unfairly treated or judged? The world will deal them a big dose of reality, but it’ll be harder to take cause they haven’t ever practised it! No one ever guarenteed you fair, life is often unfair…better get some coping skills,IMO.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jl:
you better put down that frying pan or show me where I was ugly or disrepectful aka Sannois!
Or do you think I need a whomping just on general principal (which may well be true)?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
On general principle.
Oh yea, what’s a “distoration?” Is that like a restoration gone bad?
is the title of the book.
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