The issue is the tax has now gone up.
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Duh. For some reason I was reading this as âthey are going to add tax AND a 25% tariffâ
Love(d) that stallion
And if I win the lottery, I want a Roemer.
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If itâs anything like moving horses between Ireland and England since Brexit youâll be in for a headache, we used to compete in the uk during the summer, too much hassle now and costly.
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Between Ireland and uk we now have to pay a tax on the value of the horse while itâs competing or passing through the Uk, you do get it back when you prove you didnât sell it, took nearly 6 months though. Thatâs to stop people pretending they are going to a show and selling it while they are there. Lots of people still use the loophole of going out through the North of Ireland (no border checks anymore) but theyâll close that soon Iâd say
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people thinking Canada is the problem
or that Canadians want another deal is a laugh.
Itâs going to really hurt Canadian breeders and sellers.
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Itâs not an export tax, itâs HST or GST depending on which provincial border youâre crossing at. I believe you would be exempt if you paid the seller the tax already. Most businesses would have a tax number and it should be itemized on the bill of sale.
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Not a really good idea if the horse was posted online with a price attached, if the same name is online as itâs coggins and health papers. Google can be border services friend.
Soooo. A thought occurred that is pretty sad, but maybe a silver lining for horse lovers in the US.
US horses that get sent for slaughter in Canada and Mexico.
Do we know if they are covered by retaliatory tariffs? I mean, if Canadian horses shipping to US buyers are subject to a tariff now, then US horses shipping to Canada would likely be subject to a tariff as well.
Do we think the tariff would be substantial enough to make the whole effort to ship across the border for meat no longer economically worthwhile?
Just a thought.
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I believe the Canadian plants own the holding lots in the US where they go before export.
I could be wrong.
Bottom line, I doubt it will change anything for the better for these horses
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I think anyone who thinks horse welfare in the US will improve under current conditions is delusional. For starters, on Jan 24, the Horse Protection Act which was supposed to have come into effect on Feb 1st has been âpostponedâ till April.
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Youâre probably right.
The best source
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I did not know that, but I guess thatâs understandable. I hope they profusely apologized to him/her.
This article (https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_b18cfcee-aff3-11ef-b11f-03c8f0eae48d.html) says that over 1200 KSTs (known and suspected terrorists) in just the past 4 years fro Canada. 989 at the southern border. Keeping in mind that the northern US border has no walls and way less technology and staff deployed, so itâs unknown how many others have gotten through.
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Huh. It was just announced that the call between Mexico and the US resulted in an agreement to pause all tariffs for a month.
Mexico has agreed to send 10,000 Mexican National Guard troops to the border to control their side of it. And the US is going to take steps to crack down hard on the flow of weapons from the US.
Hopefully Canada and the US figure something out as well.
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Frankly, Iâve always worried that this administration would see $$$ signs wrt our wild herds managed by BLM and see slaughter for human consumption as a way to save the money spent on our mustangs, or make moneyâŠ
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Until the next time.
Why couldnât the administration start there, at the negotiation table?
If this was how one rode their horse; crank and spank in training and then expect a harmonious dressage test, weâd laugh them out of the dressage ring.
But here we are.
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Crank and spank is an apt comparison.
But⊠I think itâs a good result for now. Iâll take it.
Hopefully there will be news from Canada soon.
And then everyone can move on to whatever Tuesday brings, without having to worry about how the heck tariffs are going to work when shipping horses back and forth from Canada, etc etc.
No insider knowledge and Iâm not looking to pick a fight. Itâs my opinion and based on seeing him operate over a lot of years and seen how many times heâs been right. If you read The Art of the Deal, youâd see a bit more into how he negotiates and why. The issues at play are crazy complex with multiple agencies and all kinds of variables and these decisions have been thought through and strategized over the past couple years. So at least in his mind and those of the people around him, they have good reasons and data supporting their courses of action. Whether they are the right decisions or notâthat will take time to see. just one personâs opinion.
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You do know that the actual writer of the art of the deal has told us that most of it is fiction, right?
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