I think its highly unlikely.
So again, you want an MSDS for this material but the other bits made from plastics, rubber etc are fine because they are not from this company?
I don’t get the vitriol, really. I’ve never used one of their bits I just don’t understand the standard being applied.
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No vitriol here. These people are making claims of certification that should be backed up with paperwork, if true. I have no intention of checking up on any claims made by other bit makers.
Not to get super off-topic here, but the look of this bit and the material made me think of the potential for bits that are 3-D printed and custom-fitted to the shape of an individual horse’s mouth.
Are there any companies out there offering this type of service?
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I work in AM a bit and have thought about this (and have access to a metal printer). 3D printing is not quite there yet. The surface finish quality for most printed plastics and metals would not be up to par (meaning it would be abrasive), and it’s porous, which can harbor bacteria and moisture. Biomaterials and biosafe materials in 3D printing is up and coming but not without significant expense. In the future-future, maybe, but engineering goes slow without significant monetary investment…
I think in terms of custom fitting, leather bits can be an answer to this, but not dressage legal. And there are so many shapes/sizes of bits out there that you can accommodate almost any horse if you work with a bit fitter or you have the hours.
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While the synthetic material may have been cleared in some human device use, this specific application is not documented. safe in humans does not = safe in animals at all times.
The advertising is hyperbolic at best, as while FDA is a standard, other agencies still do their due diligence. Ask anyone in drug development.
as far as the pictured bit, as long as it is rigid and the porting conforms to rules , it is probably best to try for yourself. Your horses particular mouth and mouthing will tell the story.
I have not bought bits from them but I have bought several half pads and I will say their customer service is excellent, if you have questions, concerns I’m sure Piotr or Aleksandra would be happy to answer, and they speak perfect English.
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Good to hear about their customer service! I also somewhat agree with the happy mouth bits as at least the gel bit won’t get pointy like a happy mouth. No issue with happy mouths but you do have to replace them once they get the bite marks which is annoying
A student of mine was curious about these bits so she bought one. Her horse loves it and when I mentioned it to another student she bought one. We are now up to four horses in them all of whom are significantly improved in willingness to go to the contact.
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I keep looking at these for one of mine.
Happy mouths are not BD legal, Nathe / Duo get chewed through in weeks.
I’ve got Winderen, Trust InnoSense & Beris on my list to try, but it’s an expensive what if!
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Where are you? I can loan you a trust d ring, if I get it back unchewed 
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I just tried one, the thing was so big in my horses mouth, he hated it.
Wales, UK……might be a ‘bit’ far 
But thank you, really appreciate the offer
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If you go through please report back. I’ve been interested in this brand since they dropped and I’m considering it for one of my horses who does best bitless but our discipline requires bits.
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This boy had a real issue being bridled/ accepting a bit so I took him bitless and he literally shoves his head into the bridle now.
But like you say we can’t do everything we want to bitless so trying to find as soft an alternative as possible.
I can’t find what I want secondhand, no one offers a trial on them and new is £120……a lot to lose on a chance he might accept it.
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I tried one for a horse who really liked a leather bit and I needed something US dressage legal. I bought the “super flexi” which is the softest mouthpiece they offer. It was too thick (18mm) for this particular horse. He ended up in a Trust with the thinner mouthpiece (15mm).
The bit is highly durable and well worth a try if your horse has room for a thicker bit.
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What is the Trust bit? The four students horses going in the 18mm Winderen (have only tried super flexi and broken mouthpieces so far in loose ring and eggbutt) like them but it would be nice to have a thinner diameter for one of the horses who does not have a lot of room in his mouth. emphasized text
https://www.trust-equestrian.com/?lang=en
The thin Inno Sense is 15mm. I bought it from Hypostore because they had the thin one in stock when I was looking.
@george - IMO the Trust is slightly firmer than the Winderen super flexi and slightly more flexible than a Duo or Nathe.
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Trust makes a 15mm and a 20mm. I’ve been considering the flexi soft or the Winderen since I have one that really seems to like the Nathe mouthpiece but I’d like an eggbutt cheek. My horses don’t chew the Nathe. I started with it for my young horse who had issues pushing into the contact properly and went through a period of some problems with his teeth.
I wound up getting a loose ring for my other, made horse who has a super soft mouth, because he hates the cold of the metal bits in winter. Sometimes he would grind his teeth a little bit when working on something hard, and since using the Nathe, which I originally thought would be too thick for him, he has not done any grinding at all. He’s super quiet in the mouth always.
I don’t really love the material though and how it turns kind of yellow, so have been curious about the other brands and finding cheek pieces suitable for dressage or the hunters for these super sensitive boys.
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I haven’t used the Winderen bits on any horses personally, but I recently worked for a bit fitter and so got to handle them when we brought them in for clients/fittings. They are THICK. I don’t know a lot of horses that would be truly, absolutely comfortable in them as they just take up a lot of oral real estate. That being said, the material is heckin’ durable, so if you have a chronic chewer, the pros might outweigh the cons!
I would personally choose the Trust Inno Sense as a first option since they have sizes that are more suitable to a range of palates.
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