Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

[AnotherRound]

@eggbutt

Does anyone know what hotel they are holed up in? Since she commented it wasn’t up to her 5* standards, I picture it as a roadside motel like Bonnie & Clyde!

As far as I know she holed up on Barisones property. Hence the general outrage that she has the balls to do that, and the general conclusin that she wanted the property all aling.

I read some thing she said which went along the lines of (not a perfect quote but the quotes I do remember ) 'yeah right, here’s me, doing such and such, all over this or that, and “living in an empty barn”.

from that I deduced that all horses are gone, and all her horses are gone. Does she know where they are? Who knows, she doesn’t mention them, ever. She may not know if daddy moved them, or the sheriff did. So what’s her justification for staying yhere?

Second deduction is that MBs horses and client horses are all gone too.

We know that MH left the property with her children.

is her boyfriend even there?

it was enough of an aside I thought she really is living in the barn apartment. She HAS said she’s back on the property until she goes to Florida for the winter, in December or january. She did say that. So I believe she’s !living on Barisones empty farm.

[eggbutt]

@AnotherRound

As far as I know she holed up on Barisones property. Hence the general outrage that she has the balls to do that, and the general conclusin that she wanted the property all aling.

I read some thing she said which went along the lines of (not a perfect quote but the quotes I do remember ) 'yeah right, here’s me, doing such and such, all over this or that, and “living in an empty barn”.

from that I deduced that all horses are gone, and all her horses are gone. Does she know where they are? Who knows, she doesn’t mention them, ever. She may not know if daddy moved them, or the sheriff did. So what’s her justification for staying yhere?

Second deduction is that MBs horses and client horses are all gone too.

We know that MH left the property with her children.

is her boyfriend even there?

it was enough of an aside I thought she really is living in the barn apartment. She HAS said she’s back on the property until she goes to Florida for the winter, in December or january. She did say that. So I believe she’s !living on Barisones empty farm.

I doubt she got the tiara!! I hope MH took it with the horses! The goal was to be sure MH, the children, and their horses were quickly away and safe. Her children were not there when the shooting occurred.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

Her children were not there when the shooting occurred.

Thank goodness for that! What sort of age range are the kids? That is, are they aware of all this?

[tryintogethere]

@MHM

Thank goodness for that! What sort of age range are the kids? That is, are they aware of all this?

The kids are minors, they are safe and that is all that needs to be said about them! They do not need to be brought into this anymore than they already have been.

[FitzE]

Something is fishy if the horses were moved but she doesn’t know anything of their whereabouts. That suggests she doesn’t own them or at least isn’t the sole owner. Otherwise she would absolutely know where they were.

Two other things jump out. One, someone said she made the “black SUV with people threatening my life” report to police in NC (or another state). If so, if she’s just repeating an old trope she uses, that’s making a false police report and she will get in trouble for that. Getting shot doesn’t get you off the hook for the things you do wrong.

Two, she has made actual threats to people on line and there are myriad screen shots and archives of those threats. Those are also actionable. Again, being a gun shot victim will mean nothing when you are being charged with harassment and threatening behavior. And that’s already done. She cannot undo what she has already written to/about MH and RC.

Also, like the boy who cried wolf, if she really has referred all the people she claims she has to SS (including the woman who truthfully told her that being insane, insulting, and threatening on line was going to ruin her chances of a show career b/c no one will board or train with her), SS will, if they have not already, mark her as someone who is abusing the system. They will take her constant deluge of reports as mostly harassment so she will quickly wear out that avenue of revenge, which I guess is good. They may also put her on the list for using SS that way. It’s astonishing that neither she nor anyone around has worked that out yet. I hope everyone she has reported is reporting her for using SS to harass, intimidate, and exact revenge - exactly as anti-SSers are afraid the system will be misused. She is the poster child for that type of abuse and they may make an example of her.

[Cowgirl]

@CLINICALLY PROVEN

Does that mean you have access to user’s email addresses?

Make sure to turn off visitor messaging on your profile or your personal messages will be public visitor messages and it will be less easy to be anonymous. I was stalked and outed this way (and locally punished) by someone in a position of power whose opinions on the freestyle rule I strongly disagreed with. I don’t post much here anymore so had no idea about visitor messages.

I am not getting into the conjecture, but I do want to express sorrow for the trainers (some who I personally know) who have lost their mentor. I am also VERY sad that our small sport has lost the skills of someone so talented for in hand work—there are too few of them out there.

[Scribbler]

I think it’s pretty clear LK is having a major psychological malfunction round about now, and I have no idea if this is something she regularly cycles through or if it’s a significantly new stage for her. I think that trying to parse out actual facts from this onslaught of bluffing, fabulating, boasting, vituperating and raging is not possible. There are some facts, some exaggerations, and some outright inventions. And some notable silences and gaps as well. But from our vantage point we have no cross check verification.

[AnotherRound]

@FitzE

Something is fishy if the horses were moved but she doesn’t know anything of their whereabouts. That suggests she doesn’t own them or at least isn’t the sole owner. Otherwise she would absolutely know where they were.

Two other things jump out. One, someone said she made the “black SUV with people threatening my life” report to police in NC (or another state). If so, if she’s just repeating an old trope she uses, that’s making a false police report and she will get in trouble for that. Getting shot doesn’t get you off the hook for the things you do wrong.

Two, she has made actual threats to people on line and there are myriad screen shots and archives of those threats. Those are also actionable. Again, being a gun shot victim will mean nothing when you are being charged with harassment and threatening behavior. And that’s already done. She cannot undo what she has already written to/about MH and RC.

Also, like the boy who cried wolf, if she really has referred all the people she claims she has to SS (including the woman who truthfully told her that being insane, insulting, and threatening on line was going to ruin her chances of a show career b/c no one will board or train with her), SS will, if they have not already, mark her as someone who is abusing the system. They will take her constant deluge of reports as mostly harassment so she will quickly wear out that avenue of revenge, which I guess is good. They may also put her on the list for using SS that way. It’s astonishing that neither she nor anyone around has worked that out yet. I hope everyone she has reported is reporting her for using SS to harass, intimidate, and exact revenge - exactly as anti-SSers are afraid the system will be misused. She is the poster child for that type of abuse and they may make an example of her.

Yeppers to alot of that. Two things though. I have no idea whether she knows where her horses are or not. It’s just that she never mentions them. Ever.bbut I have no doubt she reads the his thread and now will say she sure does. I just wondered , her being on an empty barn and no horses were they moved when she was in the hospital and if so, she wouldn’t have been a party to that.

As for SS, I thought that was a body set up specifically for the abuse of minors. If she is reporting people to SS Willy nily, they certainly will see that as abuse of their system . Likewise reporting hervwill go no where, unless the report is about her endangering children with viscous dogs, or other inappropriate behavior around children. Such as makeing false reports to DCF.

AGENCYS as well as people can call her to task for false reporting. 911 comes to mind.

[staceyk]

@eggbutt

Usually, it can depend on the topic, how long you’ve been an active poster, what personal info you have put into your posts, etc. As far as anyone being able to know who you are from your profile, that would be quite hard to achieve without help from COTH.

To the OP, you have received several useful responses including this one. I want to add that while your account can be anonymous, if there is a legal/criminal issue, there are ways to identify posters (IP address, etc). We might be able to maintain anonymity among other posters, but at the admin/higher level, not so much.

[BigMama1]

@Scribbler

I think it’s pretty clear LK is having a major psychological malfunction round about now, and I have no idea if this is something she regularly cycles through or if it’s a significantly new stage for her. I think that trying to parse out actual facts from this onslaught of bluffing, fabulating, boasting, vituperating and raging is not possible. There are some facts, some exaggerations, and some outright inventions. And some notable silences and gaps as well. But from our vantage point we have no cross check verification.

From everything we’ve seen and heard, this seems to be SOP for her, not some kind of “episode” or post-traumatic break.

[AnotherRound]

Another thought. If her horses are gone, where’s the boyfriend, who was supposedly taking care of the horses. No mention of him lately,neither. Hope their stories match up.

[FitzE]

Agreed the horses were probably moved while she was in hospital, but if she is the owner she would have to be informed about where they are now. That’s what’s so fishy…no mention of them whatsoever. At least the boyfriend got a recent shout out that he “ran into a firing weapon.” The horses, not so much as a peep.

Oh, and the chance she isn’t reading this thread is exactly 0%.

[Scribbler]

@BigMama1

From everything we’ve seen and heard, this seems to be SOP for her, not some kind of “episode” or post-traumatic break.

Then perhaps she has always had a cyclical thing going on. Indeed most mental health problems tend to wax and wane at least in their outward presentation.

[Rowdy]

I’m not sure why LK is renting space in so many heads. Oh wait. Correction. She’s squatting in a lot of heads. I get it. It’s like a train wreck that’s horrible, but you just can’t turn away. The number of armchair criminologists, psychologists and attorneys is impressive. I’ll step away for another month and see if the flow of insane chatter over a tragedy for all concerned racks up another 50 pages or so. Carry on. Or not.

[TheBlueSaddle]

LK most definitely did not get the Tiara. MH took it with her!!

Besides being the S.O. of MB, MH has the riding ability to carry it off properly so she took it with her. Besides, MB picked this particular Tiara out specifically for her. The first Tiara was the one that MB had in the barn when Colbert came to piaffe on Conchita. That one Colbert took with him because he thought he deserved it even though all he did was get the gear from SmartPak (boots, shadbelly, etc.) and then sit on Conchita and do whatever MB told him to do.

@eggbutt

I doubt she got the tiara!! I hope MH took it with the horses! The goal was to be sure MH, the children, and their horses were quickly away and safe. Her children were not there when the shooting occurred.

[FitzE]

@AnotherRound

As for SS, I thought that was a body set up specifically for the abuse of minors. If she is reporting people to SS Willy nily, they certainly will see that as abuse of their system . Likewise reporting hervwill go no where, unless the report is about her endangering children with viscous dogs, or other inappropriate behavior around children. Such as makeing false reports to DCF.

AGENCYS as well as people can call her to task for false reporting. 911 comes to mind.

No, they also address issues of victim blaming/retaliation. I believe that’s what she’s making reports of for a lot of folks. For the woman who had the guts to tell her to knock off the public crazy b/c it was going to backfire on her in the dressage world, I believe she’s reporting her for threats. What the threat was was not apparent.

What people would report her for is abuse of the SS system - using it not for its intended purpose (protection of minors in sport) but as a weapon to harass and intimidate people by threatening to get them sanctioned by SS thereby threatening their livelihood and professional reputation. That could go somewhere - i.e., getting her dinged by SS b/c she is misusing it and weaponizing it which directly harms its reputation and wastes its resources. What she is doing (or at least threatening to do, though she claims on line to have made such reports) is exactly what the SS Overhul people are braying about. She is basically live blogging abuse and weaponization of SS reporting. It’s mad!

Yes, the false DCF and 911 reports could really come back at her and being a victim of a separate crime won’t mitigate her actions esp as both occurred before the shooting. It will be easy to show if the same “SUV” report was made years before.

[AnotherRound]

@TheBlueSaddle

LK most definitely did not get the Tiara. MH took it with her!!

Besides being the S.O. of MB, MH has the riding ability to carry it off properly so she took it with her. Besides, MB picked this particular Tiara out specifically for her. The first Tiara was the one that MB had in the barn when Colbert came to piaffe on Conchita. That one Colbert took with him because he thought he deserved it even though all he did was get the gear from SmartPak (boots, shadbelly, etc.) and then sit on Conchita and do whatever MB told him to do.

I am of the understanding that Colbert actually had dressage experience. You can see when the horse shied that he sat that really well. He was feining dressage ignorance.

[NotGrandPrixYet]

@AnotherRound

I am of the understanding that Colbert actually had dressage experience. You can see when the horse shied that he sat that really well. He was feining dressage ignorance.

That’s what I thought, too, but someone posted a follow up article on that which was a behind-the-scenes take. He had only ridden a couple of times as a kid, and never dressage. His producer said that he is just physically and mentally very talented, and picks things up really fast.

Edit: I posted the link for you in my next post.

[NotGrandPrixYet]

https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/day-colbert-learned-piaffe

[AnotherRound]

@NotGrandPrixYet

https://www.chronofhorse.com/article…learned-piaffe

I had never seen that article! Nice on many fronts. Now I understand the Blue Saddle (mad up) story about the tiara. I have a sister, five years younger than me. I got a horse age 12, and tried to get her interested in riding. She just did not have the bug. But she looked perfect up on my 17 hand OTTB and thought she only rode less than 10 times, she would win the equitation flat classes she entered. Every time. Seven and 8 years old. Looked perfect, like all those skiinny medal maclay riders I emulated. Perfect position, perfect leg, perfect upper body. Natural. No bueno, though. Had no interest in horses. What a waste! Is what I always said about her talents, lol.