LK will be exposed when everything comes out in the trial. Everyone will be paying attention to every detail. If trainers/farm owners still choose to do business with her, then they will do so with lots of factual information about her. My guess is no one will want her near them. It is very likely her showing/training days will be over unless she does it on her own, and it appears she needs a lot of help with her riding, so unlikely she has any success. Just let it all come out and justice will be served. In the event of a plea deal, we probably won’t ever find out what we all are wanting to know. I hope everyone who is a trainer or farm owner will learn from this and be diligent about who they allow into their lives and business (and to protect their other clients.) I have encouraged my daughter to research people/clients/boyfriends before letting them into her circle. I hope someone can publish a clear method for how to deal w/ people like LK who simply refuse to go away. I know the first step is to DOCUMENT EVERYTHING from day 1. As I have found in the workplace, documenting is a pain, but it is the only way to show patterns, and the only way to get rid of someone. I wish MB and/or MH had filed a restraining order on LK. Maybe he tried …
@Watchturtle, who was victim shaming? The victim was himself a perpetrator of multiple crimes. That’s fact, not shaming. He was murdered. That’s fact, not shaming. In my mind, victim shaming is when you ask the victim of rape what s/he was wearing, or their prior sexual history…None of which has anything to do with the rape.
Here, the victim has a history with MB and his fiance. That’s fact. MB shot her. That’s fact. LK has posted some pretty volatile stuff on social media. That’s fact.
Perhaps LK’s prior legal history is irrelevant. Generally, prior bad acts are inadmissible for the purposes of proving guilt. If I remember my evidence class, which was a llloooonnnnngggg time ago, they made be admissible for sentencing purposes.
Perhaps those folks that are drawing conclusions about any of the parties may be “shaming”. But, mostly, I see discussion of facts and opinions. And, has been done to death: nobody on this thread has advocated for the shooting of LK.
And, in your reference to Wikipedia, I see no shaming at all? He was a bad person and he was murdered. Nobody said it was his fault he was murdered. Vigilante justice is not condoned.
My first, and probably last, post on this mess.
No one has yet to answer my questiom. Was LK involved with QH ever? We have quite a few mutual and friend of friends who are in the QH show world.
Not on here, though. If you are concerned about those type of people (Dressage Hub, people responding to LK’s FB posts, etc.) express it there, not here. No one here has “celebrated her getting shot.”
LK kept several horses at a predominate large QH barn in NC. Perhaps that’s the link. She has never had a QH to my knowledge.
Aha there are quite a few NC people but some others are just odd. She is apparently a big friend of friend requester?
Well, pardon me, LOL. I had seen LK’s ugliness to RC on RC’s FB page last week I think? In fact I reported a few of them to FB and they removed two of them. Now today I can still see LK’s posts on her own page, and I do not presently see anything ugly on RCs page from LK, at least nothing new, there are 1-2 older ones. If I overlooked them, then I misspoke.
@iberianfan Some posters have indicated that any questioning or criticism of LK’s behavior or character is “victim shaming” and “the same as saying a rape victim deserved to be raped because she dressed provocatively.” That being a victim of violence automatically means a person is innocent of any wrongdoing and their actions in no way can be considered to contribute to the ultimate outcome.
Yep, quantity over quality I suspect.
I looked only once back when it was first copy pasted here. I never looked again. Perhaps they are gone. But Dragonfly has been following along so when I referenced those things it was with the understanding Dragonfly would have read them here and/or seen them of RC’s facebook wall at that time as well. I was making no statement as to what is there today.
Some people send friend requests just because they know who someone is. I’ve actually started telling people I don’t have Facebook. Apparently working with someone or boarding at the same barn is enough to add someone to Facebook. Honestly you could send a friend request now and be added by the end of the day. Not suggesting that because she’s BS crazy but just saying.
That was never victim shaming. McElroy was, by all accounts, a menace to society. Did he deserve to be murdered? Well let’s say there exceptions to every rule.
Well that’s one heck of a tale…
I would just say she is one of those people who just friend request friends of friends or mutual members of sale of interest groups. I know a great many people like that. I don’t operate that way but some people do and whatever they want to do is fine. I was just curious if she had shown QH because of the amount of people that showed up that I know in real life and/or are friends of friends. Granted many of those folks are the friend everyone type and the mutual friend I have in common most definitely is. I wasn’t at all surprised to find he was a friend it was the others that were stranger to me.
I think it’s hard to tell too much from Facebook, since some people send and accept friend requests indiscriminately, and others are much more selective. When I first started on Facebook, I would always accept almost any friend request, whether or not I knew the person. Now I will only accept it if I recognize the name immediately as somebody I know. I will say there have been times when I did not accept a request from someone I knew for years because I did not recognize her new married name. :lol:
There could easily be random people on my friends list from the early days that I don’t even know, since I rarely go back and weed out anyone.
That’s cool. The nastiest ones were removed by FB.
Wow! I mean…wow. The ones still there when I looked accused of accessory to murder and called her a weird string of words that was meant to insult her physical appearance in this really incoherent and unhinged way. If even worse ones were there…this woman is truly frightening.
Nope. Still there.
Ahhhhhh. I had hidden 2 of them. Fb deleted the very worst one
My apologies!
Here’s the poor sweet victim minding her own business;
In America, it’s forbidden 🚫 by law to knowingly lend your gun to a person to commit two murders. Surely, a nurse with a PH.D would know that. Just bc mB is whispering with you doesn’t mean the forensics lab can’t HEAR YOUR CONVERSATION.
You are not the barn manager. You’d show up once every few months. Also… remember when DD had that throat problem? Remember when you wanted to have a say in the treatment? Do you wonder why I even know about that? I’ll tell ya. MH and MB told the WHOLE BARN you have NO SAY and you think you’re a bully. Michael made sure to let everyone know- HE IS THE BIGGER BULLY. In any case, any barn manager (since that’s the story you’re going with - even though many people from Newbern can account for your whereabouts during ALL the times you were NOT in NJ- making it impossible for you to have been “barn manager,”) is negligent at best for allowing your pink and black 9mm Ruger to just go missing -especially with two 12 yr old children running around- and reckless negligence plus aiding abetting plus conspiracy to commit murder at worst. FYI- MH hates you. Just ask her. If I had a penny for the amount of times she has said “Ruth is so old, anyway. She ll “kick the bucket soon so I’ll have full ownership of DD,” I’d be billionaire from pennies.
Given I don’t care at all about your moronic deals with criminals- you should ask yourself- “how does Lauren know all this?” Did I make this up? Pretty detailed a story to make such stuff up. You hitched your old wagon to the wrong trailer. When MH wants you out of your deal with her… what do you suppose her limits are to get you out of the picture? 🤔 Hint: she is stupid. Stupid people who have no limits are a danger to themselves & others. Do t you know that “DOCTOR 🤣🤣🤣 Ruth???” Laughable.
For anyone who has not listened to the 911 calls, please go listen to them.
