Hi there!
I recently purchased a 4-year-old AWS gelding and have had some trouble finding out much of his family history from his paperwork!
He is out of Kiss the Sky II and by CRF Pioneer (Canadian Warmblood). Other lineage includes VooDoo MBR (Dutch WB), Amro (Holsteiner), Ferro (KWPN), Bajazzo (Old), G Ramiro Z, and Flemingh.
Just curious if anyone knew anything about any of these! Thank you!!
before the pedigree links, just this remark : if making an inquiry you have to give a maximum of information in following order :
by ‘father’ out of ‘mother’ - ‘father of the mother’ - ‘father of the second mother’ (father of the grandmother) - 'father of the third mother (father of the great-grandmother) …
having birthdate(s) and the SB of the ancestors would be helpful too … and be sure of your spelling …
Bajazzo : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=241261
I didn’t find a Holsteiner named Amro, but one named Amor who was a dressage stallion in NL : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=522101
I didn’t find Flemingh neither, but 2 HOL stallions named :
Fleming : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=373408 (standing in USA)
Flemmingh : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=361498 (standing in NL)
Both have dressage products
I also found 2 stallions named Ferro, one the father of the other, both dressage stallions :
Ferro (father) : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=245441
Ferro (son) : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10238703
G Ramiro Z is one of the best HOL SJ-stallions ever bred - and he is not a ‘Z’ : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?d=G+Ramiro+Z&sex=&color=&dog_breed=any&birthyear=&birthland=
He also had dressage products …
I found 2 mares named Voodoo - SB KWPN … but no stallions
I found nothing on the parents you indicated.
important note : I only researched on sporthorse-data, but there are many other pedigree HPs …
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before the pedigree links, just this remark : if making an inquiry you have to give a maximum of information in following order :
by ‘father’ out of ‘mother’ - ‘father of the mother’ - ‘father of the second mother’ (father of the grandmother) - 'father of the third mother (father of the great-grandmother) …
having birthdate(s) and the SB of the ancestors would be helpful too … and be sure of your spelling …
Bajazzo : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=241261
I didn’t find a Holsteiner named Amro, but one named Amor who was a dressage stallion in NL : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=522101
I didn’t find Flemingh neither, but 2 HOL stallions named :
Fleming : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=373408 (standing in USA)
Flemmingh : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=361498 (standing in NL)
Both have dressage products
I also found 2 stallions named Ferro, one the father of the other, both dressage stallions :
Ferro (father) : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=245441
Ferro (son) : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10238703
G Ramiro Z is one of the best HOL SJ-stallions ever bred - and he is not a ‘Z’ : http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?d=G+Ramiro+Z&sex=&color=&dog_breed=any&birthyear=&birthland=
He also had dressage products …
I found 2 mares named Voodoo - SB KWPN … but no stallions
I found nothing on the parents you indicated.
important note : I only researched on sporthorse-data, but there are many other pedigree HPs …[/QUOTE]
Thank you so much!! Sorry I wasn’t correct with my terms! I was trying to post a picture of his paperwork but wasn’t sure how to upload! All of the names listed above besides Kiss the Sky were stallions! This is really great info, thank you so much!
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Thank you so much!! Sorry I wasn’t correct with my terms! I was trying to post a picture of his paperwork but wasn’t sure how to upload! All of the names listed above besides Kiss the Sky were stallions! This is really great info, thank you so much![/QUOTE]
's ok … I decided to explain because you’re as green as me here 
But I don’t know much about dressage, so the other answers are very very welcome and helpful for you.
Thank you so much!!
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http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?246094-Anyone-heard-of-stallion-Voodoo-MBR[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much!
Lots of KWPN breeding here via Canada but in Europe horses can be bred in one jurisdiction (such as Holstein) and approved in others (such as Holland or other German states). G Ramiro Z was the name give to Ramiro when he was used at Zangersheide Stud in Belgium…he is Ramiro in the KWPN book…
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Lots of KWPN breeding here via Canada but in Europe horses can be bred in one jurisdiction (such as Holstein) and approved in others (such as Holland or other German states). G Ramiro Z was the name give to Ramiro when he was used at Zangersheide Stud in Belgium…he is Ramiro in the KWPN book…[/QUOTE]
yes and a Holsteiner by his birth stud-book …
I owned CRF Pioneer!!! He was gelded though way back, (before I bought him maybe 2011?) I owned him for a few years but then had to sell him to a very nice dressage lady in Vermont because I just couldn’t financially keep him and my others Morgan’s:(
I actually found this thread because I’ve been searching for him because he was sold onto some eventing people and I’m trying to find him.
I also know voodoo quite well as he is up in Maine with Don Devine and he has other offspring. He’s quite the jumper horse. Where are you from and where did you purchase your horse? I could send you some photos and other information I have if you’re interested:)
Hi, I have been trying to post on here forever, but I could never get my registration to go through. I actually own your horses dam, kiss the Sky II… you posted this along time ago, so I don’t even know if you’ll see my response
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