Work - Life - Showjumping

These are great stories.

And nice to be considered a ‘pup’ at mid-40 :sweat_smile:

That is really inspiring to be still jumping at 60 (and not just jumping but SOLID jumps) Amazing job!

With work / life / riding so much has to do with infrastructure. The periods when I don’t travel and can go regularly and calmly to training, things work great. But when there are periods of lots of work-travel (like now), the reality is just different. If a saintly horse can compensate for that, probably not totally, but I guess there is a lot that a horse can offer through its experience/general temperament.

6 Likes

This is supposed to be fun, at least most of the time. If the green horse isn’t fun and especially if you don’t see a light at the end of a short tunnel, a more been-there, done-that type might be more appropriate. There are green horses and then there are green horses. Some people are more OK with green than others. There’s no shame in saying you don’t want to do green. And no shame in saying you like producing green horses and maybe doing less showing. Or something in between.

After two horses that became unrideable due to lameness, both effectively necks (one retired at 14, but I hadn’t jumped him for several years before that; the other was euthanized shortly after his seventh birthday), I decided that I wasn’t getting any younger and would spend the money to buy something not green. This was seven years ago, so I’d just turned sixty and Grady was a pretty mature six. I didn’t consider him all that green, but some did. We did some 3’ hunters and eq and then he had lameness issues (in hindsight foot balance). I made some changes in his lifestyle and figured I’d be good if we could do 2’6" eventually. I started showing again last winter and have been doing the 1-1.05 jumpers since last May. If not ridden fairly carefully he will have a rail here and there, but he is brave, willing, kind, and safe. A horse you can gallop around on the bridle paths at Thermal, alone or in a group. A horse you can hop on the first day of a show with zero prep and no ear plugs and ride in the GP ring just for fun. That’s worth a lot. Not sure how many more years I can do this, but I plan to enjoy it while I can.

And, OP, if you think you’re old listen to a podcast where Kevin Keane is interviewed. He’s, I think, 68 and still competing at advanced level eventing. And running a vet practice.

23 Likes

Nice!! And in the big ring. Congrats!!!

2 Likes

I can attest that a BTDT horse can really help compensate. I have periods where I travel or I get a bunch of last minute meetings scheduled in the evening/afternoon and I have to cancel my lessons at the last minute and too late to get someone else to hack or lunge him. My old horse would murder me if I accidentally gave her 3 days off. My new guy? Just fine. Maybe we do a light lunge if it’s chilly and he’s had a couple days off but he’s not going to murder me either way. It’s also very easy to get literally any half competent adult or kid to hack him when I’m out of town because he’s a joy to ride and he’s so good a taking a joke no one is going to ruin him with a couple of weird rides. My old horse had only a very short list of suitable riders. So when I travel etc she would get a couple training rides then either get days off or I would come back and she’d be pissed off that she hadn’t had a perfect ride for a couple days

4 Likes

This was my life too!

My former fire breathing dragons that I considered packers weren’t even rides that the working student wanted to deal with. I paid for so many training rides when work would blow up my riding schedule. Luckily for me there was the BO who would occasionally be able to help when schedule allowed - she enjoyed the same ride I did.

I still have never had the luxury of a critter not needing 6 days a week of work… (we only jumped 1x or 2x a week - usually a grid vs course split and only 1 day if “height”).

When I lease / own ^ that is going to be part of my criteria!

1 Like

Great rides!
@ Peggy, RAyers, Xctrygirl

5 Likes

I bought my last and best horse already made…quirky but not Green. It went best with every other day rides and since I came to the realization I could really only make it to the barn 3 days a week, at best. It was a good match and brought the fun back. Most of the Juniors ( 3’6”) liked hacking her, saved on Pro rides.

At shows there was no extensive prep involved. Sometimes had assistant trainer do a low trip right before I did my AA trips on the first day. Im not too proud to admit that either, was in my late 50s often drove down same day as the classes.

Took many years but finally bought the right horse for the reality of my situation. Not to mention being able to go gallop around the KHP, and I mean gallop. Miss that horse for that, kick a*s fun.

4 Likes

Piling on to Team Made Horse here. We’d gone looking for a large pony hunter to lease for my then 14yo and came home with a teenaged Czech WB gelding who had an active, verifiable USEF record at 1m-1.10ish and had competed thru 1.30m, possibly 1.40m, in Europe. He was extremely well-priced and maaaaybe quiet enough to ribbon in the local Hunters. We got extremely lucky – the seller and her trainer were already overwhelmed trying to keep up with 50+ inquiries a day. I also got the impression they liked the way my daughter rode and felt that the horse seemed to like her, too.

He’s been amazing. Just what daughter needed. Her confidence over fences had been rattled and she was nervous, yet angry at herself for being nervous. And she subconsciously worried that she was asking too much of her beloved ponies. My “grandson” changed all that. Fences under 2’9" or so are nothing to him. He might as well be jumping a twig on the ground. Additionally, he’s an excellent decision maker and uncannily discerning. He will abort mission if he believes that you are going to meet disaster if he jumps. Otherwise, he’s going. At home, he will let you know in no uncertain terms that he saved your butt. At shows, he will extend grace. Our trainer’s trainer walked up while she was watching daughter and grandson’s round at a schooling show: “Oh, that’s a very nice horse!” At another show, someone remarked about his “unhurried” pace. That made me chuckle. But it is part of what makes him such a lovely horse. He will not allow you rush.

All this gave daughter the freedom to worry about her circus and monkeys over fences. He’s certainly quiet compared to horses like McLain Ward’s Contagious. Yet he’s quirky and no dead head. He got “fired” from a half-lease in under 4 weeks after he bucked the poor woman off. He’s very European and thinks that hacking out alone or above a walk is a practice drill for the Zombie Apocalypse. Now that daughter has officially met with his approval and can increasingly push the fancy buttons, the extent of his schooling is becoming increasingly apparent. And we’re starting to see a fire and athleticism that previous owner thought he didn’t have. He LOVES TO JUMP. They’re doing the 1m open and Low Children’s at Upperville this June. And I would not be surprised if it turns out that he carries her into the 1.20m or beyond.

Long story short: find you a slightly older, been there, done that horse. For the price of hock injections and a monthly sessions with a beloved bodyworker, we basically have the elusive 3" + packer. Riding is supposed to be fun. It is too much work and money not to be. Find the equine partner that makes it fun for you!

19 Likes

OMG isn’t it lovely when others are actually willing to ride your horse. It’s so much less stressful

3 Likes

Horses are too expensive to not be having fun if you’re doing this as an amateur.
Buy the made horse, go have fun. Life is too short for a hobby to be a constant source of stress.

6 Likes

Thanks and nice story, good luck !

1 Like

I am over 50 and have done both. I bought a 4 year old who was amazing by the time he was seven–but ages 4-6 I cried a lot. I also have a high stress, busy job. He sadly and unexpectedly passed. When I was ready to get another horse I went for the experienced route because I didn’t have the energy or heart to go through another 2-3 years of a young horse. That was the right decision for me, just have a horse to enjoy things on.

4 Likes

Entirely unnecessary, and ridiculous. Just wow.

16 Likes

This past week I did get to ride two very experienced horses.

Not sure how much their experience factored in, but just riding those horses was a lot of fun and reminded me what a different feeling it is to ride a different horse.

And confirmed to me the idea to find my little mare a more fitting home (and me a new partner). I had her since she was newly under saddle and now jumps a 1 m course (on a good day), so there are many good experiences to take along. I think she will be happier to stick around .80, unless she has a really good rider.

I would have taken the second horse I tried home, tbh. And might, if I can convince trainer its a good amateur horse… Though I guess it would be more reasonable to try a few more horses :sweat_smile:

11 Likes

Good decision but realize we want updates :wink:

3 Likes

Hi Everyone,

Back again… So, soon I will have some real time for horse hunting.

I am wondering to those who were advocating the BTDT horse, how old would you go?
14, 15, 16?

At competitions were I live, I recently looked at the ages of the horses in the jumper classes, and it seems pretty common up to 18 (even a 20yr old won a 115cm class!). But obviously that is the exception.

1 Like

I think it is totally dependent on you, the horse in question, and your goals.

Check out this thread that has plenty of amazing examples of horses 15 and older still doing the “bigger stuff” : Age for horses to stop jumping?

I personally bought a 17yo who had up to 1.40 experience and couldn’t be happier with my decision. If your budget isn’t unlimited, sometimes going a bit older helps get it done for the right figure.

5 Likes

This. Also in my 40’s… we don’t bounce as easily and it’s much more frustrating.
FWIW, I left one out in an exercise the other day, fell off over low fences, and came back a few days later and jumped around a normal 3’ hunter course bc the steady horse didn’t care. It’s a relief to know that I’m the head case in the partnership and if I can get over myself, we are always destined to do wonderfully.

9 Likes

This depends on if you will need to sell him on or are able to step down as he does and have a retirement plan when the time comes.

Keep in mind medical insurance is very limited or non existent after age 17.

Depends on your honest evaluation of your situation. Depends on finding the perfect horse for that situation too. If you find it, it will be be a perfect age.

You might want to look at leasing too…older Ammy friend went to a winter circuit show to try something to buy. Trued a bunch and then was offered a ride on a 16ish campaigner who was stepping down and not for sale just to feel the ride. Amazing, rode like a MB. Few months later, still had not found anything.

They get a call and were offered a lease on the older gentleman, snapped it up. When they got the paperwork including his show name, it was jaw dropping. World Cup horse.

Trainer networking found and got her that horse so they are out there. Fact this one was mid teens and below the “desired” height plus the fact he was never advertised put him right in her lap. Developing the right contacts yourself and using trainers with a great network can increase chances of finding that perfect match…especially if, on paper it is not a match or not even the horse you went to see.

Often you find the best ones when you aren’t really looking.

6 Likes

Insurance is region dependent or more of “who you know” - at least in 2020. I insured a 19 year old horse for major medical and full mortality.

I used James Klein Insurance Services Inc.

@Chestnut24 - my eventing barn has old campaigners 17 yrs + who are competing training / prelim level and higher for various clients.

Horses are a bit of a crap shoot, no one can guarantee and age that will “last longer”. I’d say you can also look into leasing an schoolmaster, but if you really want to own - have a facility that is excellent care & step up your conditioning of the “older animal” (staff on premise, bremer, ice boots, chiro access, good senior style feed, turnout with hills, somewhere to do walk only rides outside of an arena, etc.)

3 Likes