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Any reason why a breeder would chose to stand a stallion that is N/H?[/QUOTE]
Money.
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Money.[/QUOTE]
Yes, money! Those bulked up halter horses win. There are halter breeders who intentionally breed for N/H.
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Any reason why a breeder would chose to stand a stallion that is N/H?[/QUOTE]
Because halter people don’t care, and will buy N/H babies and breed to a N/H stallion as readily as they would to a N/N one if the horse is/is producing what they want.
I know halter breeders who have had multiple horses keel over and die over the years , and they’ll still tell you that HYPP is easily managed and not a big deal.
Jeez, I guess I’m really glad I asked! That was my gut feeling, but I didn’t really want to believe that was a persons only motivation.
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Any reason why a breeder would chose to stand a stallion that is N/H?[/QUOTE]
N/H and H/H give that really bulked up look with lots of definition that wins in halter. A lot of people believe that N/H and H/H (which no longer can be registered) had/have an edge in the halter ring.
And the only reason I know anything about this is that back in the early 1990s I had a subscription to a western riding magazine and I bought the QHJ at the local tack shop every month. It was during this time that the confirmation that HYPP was real, testable and undoubtedly traced to Impressive and only to Impressive broke. So I have about 5 years of magazines where the whole sad story unfolds in articles, op-eds and Letters to the Editor.
Just a few points of clarification. The stud cannot be registered with AQHA because both of his parents are paints. Secondly the filly cannot be registered with AQHA because her stud is a Paint, not QH. She can be registered APHA tho.
There is way too much halter breeding in the filly’s pedigree and way too much line breeding in the Impressive and Conclusion bloodlines. I am not a fan of halter bred QHs although some do have athletic careers. I also am not averse to Impressive but not all over the pedigree. Remember, Impressive was part TB. Impressive horses are not everyone’s cuppa.
I am however a fan of QHs. If you are into sporthorses, find yourself a nice well-bred Appendix QH. Athletic and smart.
Posted before a QH breeder and Halter exhibitor near me is vocal about the fact “you can’t win with an NN” so he breeds specifically for the NH. Does good, sells for top dollar.
So combination of build and color, show wins and money, money, money for the babies from those who want to win keeps it going. Since Paint doesn’t test IIRC, some have gone that way, especially since Impressive was a bright chestnut who threw high white. Too bad, they were very good horses and quite athletic before they inbred them for beefiness.
For OP, there must be somebody with some kind of healthy weanling within 100 miles of you.
Oh I’m sure there are. Cash on hand to purchase a buddy is tight. I just spent two thousand breeding my mare again this year alone, and the hubby is none to thrilled with the idea of spending several thousand on another baby that will just be chilling in the pasture. I have put the word out with my reproductive vet about what I am looking for, so maybe I’ll find someone that wants the same thing as me! If any of you happen to know of someone looking for a buddy, send em my way!! 
Winter (such as you get) is sneaking up on us and those weanlings eat. Tend to look like crap when they coat up and get gawky. Bet you will turn up something within a reasonable amount of time. Maybe even for less then you are thinking.
Good luck, keep us posted.
Thanks! I hope you’re right. Although being in California changes things just a bit! Our winters aren’t very harsh, lol! I’ll keep my eyes open for the perfect opportunity!
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Oh I’m sure there are. Cash on hand to purchase and the hubby is none to thrilled with the idea of spending several thousand on another baby…[/QUOTE]
I seriously hope the breeder was not charging several thousand for that filly. There is no way a Paint baby is worth that…bloodlines or not. Up here they are giving them away, registered and coloured.
I take the point that there is money in halter horses…but to make money you gotta play with the halter big boyz. I have seen so many people get taken (!!!) thinking that they can get in on that game and lose big time. And the “real” money is in AQHA, not Paint…and that filly cannot be registered with AQHA despite all the world titles.
I have to agree with the poster above. The filly is probably a cull and a lot of halter culls get dumped at auction…registered, registerable…HYPP status undisclosed. Then poor unassuming people pick them up and are dazzled by the bloodlines thinking they have found a diamond in the rough when they have really bought somebody’s else’s problem.
A nice QH baby should cost you under a thousand.
Have you tried looking on Bayquest? It covers NorCal generally and there are usually some VERY reasonable babies on there - I usually look at AQHA and APHA, although also occasionally AHA and appies. Might be worth a look …
You might enjoy a Half Arabian. Slower to nature as a rule but generally friendlier to their peeps on the ground, easy to break out and good family horses. Especially if the other half is QH. They are more popular in your area then others. Don’t leave them out of your search
From what many other experienced breeders have suggested, I would be best served by getting my colt a weanling of similar age to buddy up with, instead of trying to put him in with any of my other adult horses.
I would not buy another young horse to serve only as a buddy. He’ll be just fine living with the adult horses.
I feel like upgrading this little cutie, but do not want to risk my herd…
Unless you were planning to allow your colt to breed this filly eventually, there is no risk to your herd. HYPP is not contagious.
“World Champion” is a term that gets tossed around pretty loosely in the QH/ APHA/ Ap / Pinto worlds. For the most part they have yet to understand why it’s better for the breed to make those titles exclusive to the best.
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I would not buy another young horse to serve only as a buddy. He’ll be just fine living with the adult horses.
Unless you were planning to allow your colt to breed this filly eventually, there is no risk to your herd. HYPP is not contagious.[/QUOTE]
i understand that hypp is not contagious, and I am definitely not planning on breeding any other horse than my broodmare (who I purchased specifically to be bred). My concerns for the rest of my herd are founded on the general horse husbandry and care this paint breeder shows his herd. I am “generally” concerned about other communicable diseases that the filly could be exposed to. And she is definitely a cull, I just had hopes that she could have potential elsewhere. According to my other thread about bringing in the auntie horse, the unanimous answer was don’t do it, it’s not worth risking injury to the colt. The colts dam has been putting up with his antics and a new horse might not be so forgiving. There was solid reasoning behind their answers that I was just not looking at before. Of course, if I find the right weanling their job will be much more than a pasture buddy! Without going into more detail, I’m thankful I asked around on here and I’m going to listen to my gut on this one!
