Wrap Strap Girth

I bought a used smuckers harness and instead of their usual girth, with tug straps -there is a girth with a long straps and buckles at the ends. I looked it up and found it in the smuckers catalog and it is called a “wrap-strap girth” but I am not sure how they are supposed to work. I think I have found a photo of the wrap strap on their fine harness page -but I am a bit confused to the purpose and I can’t quite make out what or how they wrapped it to the shaft and then if the tug just hangs with the shaft in it without attaching.

For a photo of a wrap strap girth, look on this page (catalog item “L”)
http://www.smuckersharness.com/pg21.html

The tugs are also slightly different too, in that they don’t have bottom buckles -so they can’t attach. See item “I” on the same page.

Help would be appreciated.

Any help would be appreciated

I had these on my hunts harness. You put the shaft into the tug, then the wrap strap wraps in front of the tug, around the shaft and then behind the tug and back into it’s buckle. At least that was how i was told to use it. I hated it. I dont understand the purpose and it adds a bulky look to me. Unless i just did it wrong? I no longer own the harness, but it was exactly the same as these.

I believe they are supposed to lessen the bounce in 2 wheeled vehicles.

I am not a fan of them, cant get them off in a hurry, because of what ButlerFZoo stated, they are wrapped in front of and behind the tug and some people even take the ‘wrapping’ end and go under so its more secure, locking the wrap. Its typical for gigs, cocking carts etc.

you wrap it sort of how you would wrap the breeching strap that is attached to the hold back on the shaft…did I just confuse you more?

blach! single harness and all its parts, give me a pairs or set of 4 in hand any day:D

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I think I have found a photo of the wrap strap on their fine harness page -but I am a bit confused to the purpose and I can’t quite make out what or how they wrapped it to the shaft and then if the tug just hangs with the shaft in it without attaching.

Help would be appreciated.

Any help would be appreciated[/QUOTE]

the shafts go into the tugs that are the floating kind of tug. They slide instead of being fixed to the side of the harness, perhaps you are missing pieces.

just reread your post:
attach the girth like you would, now slide shafts into tugs, take the wrap strap and and bring it up in between the horse and the shaft, wrap it down towards you, going up wrap the other side if the tug. now you should be getting ready to go down and towards you again. you can either buckle it in now to its self, (there should be a buckle) or you can take the end and slip it in between the previous (first wrap) and then down locking it.

you may have to wrap one more time depending on height of shaft and length of wrap

I hope this makes sense.
need to find a video.

I have been told that wrap strap girths are designed for 4-wheel carriage shafts and race bikes on Standardbreds. Buggy shafts are not supposed to float, no weight on the horse. So the horse is harnessed with the wrap strap to keep the shafts quiet in the shaft loops while going along.

Thinking is similar on the race bikes, jog bike at the track. Weight is light, surface they go over is prepared, smooth. You do NOT want extraneous movement of shafts during times the horse is hitched. That movement could interfere with his speed, make you lose a race or cause a problem doing training sessions. So the racing folks also tighten the wrap strap around the shaft and snug it down to the strap buckle on the girth.

I am sure there is some cross-over into other breed fashions, ways of driving horses. The fine harness horses usually have wrap strap girths for less bulk, cleaner look. Not sure if the Thimbles that hold the shaft ends for stopping, are still fashionable at all. Again, vehicle is light, 2 or 4-wheeled, moving on prepared surfaces, allows less “free movement of shafts” during gait changes and halts, than floating shafts would. So even though horse may be carrying weight with a cart at times, shaft weight is not a big load or over hard going, rough surfaces or done for only short periods of time. Not usually going to sore him up. QH and Western breeds use this light kind of harness to their very light 2-wheel carts for breed show classes, have the wrap straps on their harnesses. Probably just copying other breeds in what they use for “driving” horses in the show ring. Some of the strapwork is so thin on big QHs it looks kind of odd, but IS THE FASHION they want to see.

Wrap straps are very common on “buggy” harness used by the Amish, sold by their harness makers.

I was also taught to bring the wrap strap up between horse and shaft, come over the shaft, down under the shaft loop, back up between horse and shaft again, and then over the shaft top down to buckle into the extra girth buckle for the wrap strap. Holds the shaft down and in place so the shaft loop is in the correct location. We never did the locking wrap on that strap, but there are bound to be numerous methods of fastening it. We do the locking wrap on the breeching holdbacks. If the footman loop is in the correct location on the shaft, I don’t see the girth wrap strap and the breeching holdback strap even getting near each other.

I will disagree that this wrap strap would ever be correct on a Gig. Someone may have used one to their Gig, but it was incorrect harness for the vehicle.

Gigs use a sliding backband on the correct, very wide saddle of a Gig harness. You might see a Gig hitched with a harness saddle using shaft loops (tug loops) that would allow some float. On the Gig harness saddle the more correct French Tugs will hold the gracefully curved, very hooked shafts in place. On correctly turned out Gigs, there would also be Tug Stops on the side/bottom of the shaft at the saddle area. The Tug stops will help prevent shafts sliding forward in shaft loops or French Tugs while stopping or slowing down, doing any downhill driving. No chance of vehicle hitting horse in the rump.

My draft show harness (Sampson) came with 2 wrap strap girths. Once I figured out what they were (lol!) I quite like them and now I’m very used to them.

Most of the time I find I can wrap 3 times. First time I come up between the horse and the shaft, with the trace on the same side as the shaft, in front of the tug. Then I wrap around just the shaft (not the trace) behind the tug. Then wrap one more time around just the shaft, in front of the tug, tucking this wrap under one of the previous wraps. Then buckle it down. The trace should be between the straps, not next to the horse, but free to move, not wrapped to the shaft. Always wrap more times in front of the tug than behind, this will serve as a shafts stop for slight downhills and sudden stopping.

Wrap straps are very common on harnesses used on Saddlebreds, Arabians and Morgans in the show ring. Thimbles are definatly not in fashion in the show ring. French tugs are becoming the preferred fashion, but they are always used with shaft stops on the shafts of the cart.

Ugh. I hate those girths w/wraps. I had two that came with some cheapo harness. I threw those wrap strap girths away, and got two girths with the buckle in hold-down straps, and changed the wrap-strap tugs to ones with the holddown strap.

If you want to keep yours, then the proper way to wrap the shafts have already been outlined above. The downside to them is they they are time-consuming to wrap and unwrap, and will transfer all the motion of the horse/pony to the shaft which will transfer to the vehicle. Not too bad if the vehicle is a 4 wheel, but is when the vehicle is a 2-wheel cart.

They looked at my wrap strap harness like it had come from Mars.:lol: I don’t think I’ve ever seen it in our local Amish shops. Smuckers is different, they have made show harness for years.

As others have said, it is very common with show horse folks. I’ve found different trainers have their own “correct” way of wrapping shafts; they all work though. After a couple times, I got the hang of it and had no problems, even with a horse who never stands still.

I know this is an old thread, but I received a new harness the other day and it has wrap straps. I cannot for the life of me decode text into actually doing it - is there a step by step picture or video tutorial I can watch to make sure I’m doing it correctly?

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I know this is an old thread, but I received a new harness the other day and it has wrap straps. I cannot for the life of me decode text into actually doing it - is there a step by step picture or video tutorial I can watch to make sure I’m doing it correctly?[/QUOTE]
First question: Are you going to use the harness on a 4 wheel vehicle, or two wheel?

Currently just a 2 wheel, in the process of finding the right 4 wheeler

Do you have the book “Breaking and Training the Driving Horse” by Doris Ganton? They have an excellent diagram on p. 12 that shows how the wrap strap goes around the tug. It’s a very helpful book also. I got it used on Amazon for about $10 or so.