WTF Are We Doing?

[RAyers]

@groom

I was interviewing for a coursebuilding job several years ago with one of the millionaire event owners. He asked what kind of liability insurance I carry, and I answered “Poverty”. But it is true, and he knew it all too well. The surest way to avoid lawsuits is to have nothing to steal. The millionaire laughed, and tried to hire me, but I ultimately declined. It would have meant breaking ties with one of my LL working-class events, and I know they are 10x as dependable as millionaires. And a lot more fun to be around. Hey, 2020 - looks like a lot more people are adopting my economic strategy!

I know I am. You are spot on. Sadly that is why I said what I said. Even the USEA doesn’t have that much.

In my experience when somebody approaches me with a product liability case (I work as a consulting expert), when I tell them how much it will really cost for me to conduct a thorough investigation, really examine all of the physical evidence, review all the records and scour the scientific and engineering literature, many times they quit when they realize how much they will get versus what they need to spend to get that. And it may takes months to years.

[Impractical_Horsewoman]

@Xctrygirl

And we know a friends family memory who literally never left and was exposed to it through her Delivered groceries

Wow, that’s awful! Particularly since I’m sure this person was elderly or compromised, since she was sheltering in her home. From what I understand, though, surface contamination isn’t really much of a factor in spreading. Was it through an extended verbal interaction with the delivery person? Are they sure it was through groceries and not through someone else in the home?

[OhMissLibrarian]

I believe Sparrows Neo (sp) passed at Morven Park today, although I don’t believe it was related to a fence (happened in between fences) ☹️ Just saw it on COTH Facebook. So sorry for him and his connections.

[Impractical_Horsewoman]

@OhMissLibrarian

I believe Sparrows Neo (sp) passed at Morven Park today, although I don’t believe it was related to a fence (happened in between fences) ☹️ Just saw it on COTH Facebook. So sorry for him and his connections.

Very sad, and according to the article, Alexandra Sacksen had been riding the horse since her Pony Club days. I think the necropsy is still pending, but since it was between fences, the cause was possibly a cardiac event.

Sparrow’s Nio was a beautiful horse, and I always have a particular fondness for ponies in eventing (Sparrow’s Neo was a Connemara-TB cross.)

[pegasusmom]

@Impractical Horsewoman

Very sad, and according to the article, Alexandra Sacksen had been riding the horse since her Pony Club days. I think the necropsy is still pending, but since it was between fences, the cause was possibly a cardiac event.

Sparrow’s Neo was a beautiful horse, and I always have a particular fondness for ponies in eventing (Sparrow’s Neo was a Connemara-TB cross.)

Spelled Nio

[Impractical_Horsewoman]

@pegasusmom

Spelled Nio

Corrected, and apologies about that, went off the previous spelling.

[Jealoushe]

Heart breaking. Such a limited season and unfortunately 2 horse fatalities and 1 rider fatality in 2020 still:

[Blugal]

2018 Badminton runner-up Cooley SRS (WillingnaPark Cooley) put down after “freak” accident XC schooling: https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/cooley-srs-put-down-willinga-park-cooley-727614

The article does not say what the actual “accident” was but his rider is in hospital with liver damage.

[Marigold]

@Blugal

2018 Badminton runner-up Cooley SRS (WillingnaPark Cooley) put down after “freak” accident XC schooling

If I promise to hide under the bed for the whole rest of this awful, awful year, will that make it stop??

[Janet]

@Impractical Horsewoman

Corrected, and apologies about that, went off the previous spelling.

You had it twice, and you only fixed one of them.
One of mine is a grand daughter of *Grange Finn Sparrow, and I have followed Nio’s career with great interest. Such a loss.

[Jealoushe]

@Blugal

2018 Badminton runner-up Cooley SRS (WillingnaPark Cooley) put down after “freak” accident XC schooling: https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/cooley-srs-put-down-willinga-park-cooley-727614

The article does not say what the actual “accident” was but his rider is in hospital with liver damage.

UGH. And Hazel Shannon seriously injured. Not good. Hard to believe so much tragedy this year with hardly any season

@Janet a huge loss. I’m surprised there is not a thread about it honestly.

[headbrickwall]

No one has mentioned poor old Direct Cassino either 🙁

[Jealoushe]

@headbrickwall

No one has mentioned poor old Direct Cassino either 🙁

UGH no one said a peep. Found some info. So four horses gone this year, and a few really lucky riders.

[URL=“https://www.cornburyhousehorsetrials.co.uk/statement-from-cornbury-house-horse-trials/”]https://www.cornburyhousehorsetrials…-horse-trials/

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/horse-hound/20200917/283029762030518

[Marigold]

@headbrickwall

No one has mentioned poor old Direct Cassino either 🙁

I had no idea. Does anyone know if Ryuzo is okay? He’s a spectacular rider and I love watching him. That’s awful

[Blugal]

Another horse fatally injured: Hendrix, 9 year old, in the CCI4*-S at Bicton, June 13, 2021. It was at a “roll top” - photo in the article. It wasn’t what I was expecting - it’s a skinny rolltop with busy decorations.
https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/hendrix-holly-needham-bicton-cross-country-748680?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=hh-eventing

[mugsgame]

I was there today. It was a straightforward fence on an acute angle. Depended on how much ‘risk’ the rider wanted to take as could jump it on acute angle straight or waste time and straighten for it. I saw some bloopers there mostly people who went on a long flat stride and some got away and some fell. It wasn’t a difficult fence. The lack of respect for it by riders caused the issues. I watched Emily King annihilate the corner yesterday on a no hoper of a stride but ‘got away’ with it due to frangible technology.

[Jealoushe]

Where the hell are the officials??

[Xctrygirl]

Two to add…

6/17/21

15 yr Old Irish Team rider Tiggy Hancock

‘The world has lost an angel’: 15-year-old rising eventing star killed in...

7/14/21

Annie Goodwin in Aiken, SC

Annie Goodwin Passes Away After Cross Country Schooling Accident - Eventing...

Both of these just break my heart.

Em

[skrosenthal]

Both of these are so tragic (they’re all tragic!). There will be a lot of discussion over the next few weeks about frangible technology and vets at every fence and all the preparation everyone is doing to try to make sure nothing bad happens on television at the olympics — which is super important! — but we have to at some point face the reality that an enormous number of bad things happen in precisely the environments where that kind of supervision and technology isn’t at issue, in schooling accidents and unrecognized events and warm-up areas.

[Jealoushe]

I don’t understand how this is happening. These are competent riders over Training level fences.

A miss at a training level fence shouldn’t end your life.

Were they wearing air vests? I see Tiggy wore one.

It seems like schooling accidents are become more prevalent than competition ones also.