I’m not sorry for asking hard questions. You’re right.
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It’s not the questions asked, it’s the condemnation of the person who lost a horse, the condemnation of the person who was hurt, the condemnation of the venue holding the event and assorted other conspiracy theories.
Can’t you be nice?
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ok now this was a really stupid statement so now I know you’re just trolling
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I’m going to try one more time.
This is not the forum, nor the time, nor the place to ask the questions with the tone, anger and approach you have been taking.
You are getting frustrated with people here for their lack of GAF when you need to take ownership too. So.
- Have you messaged your concerns to the USEA or the FEI ?
- Have you participated in surveys, volunteer work or anything that gives you valuable insight?
- Have you participated in training seminars or safety seminars?
- Have you donated to frangible fence funding or safety initiatives?
If you can’t say yes to any of those, your anger, commendation, frustrated and comments do just as much good for the sport as the people you are claiming do nothing. Yelling to the abyss, commenting over and over will not affect change where change is needed to be. It’s performative not active. Asking the hard questions are not hard if you aren’t asking the right people.
I will say your discuss on the the 5 yr old training thread comes from a more rational and thought out place, and it’s easier to have the discourse needed there. All you will receive here is folks equal frustrating with your inability to look at this from any other lens then “no one cares but me”
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The answer is actually yes to more than one of those. The safety initiatives I will not contribute to until there’s more transparency, and accountability to dangerous and/or abusive riding. What will it take to get dumb riders off course, I don’t know. It was only a year and some change ago the course designers were aiming for carnage to separate wheat from chaff.
Question - on a usea record, how can one tell if a time penalty is due to too fast, or too slow?
Would you consider this transparency? Given the timing of the introduction of more widespread use of frangibles, I would say this is fairly strong evidence in favor of supporting that technology. The change in the % of rotational falls is incredible progress.
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You know that zero is not possible. Your goal is to end all horse sport that makes you sad.
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If we waited for other to ask, we’d be stuck somewhere between “it’s too soon” and “we need more facts”, meanwhile people continue to enter events left and right.
If the membership themselves won’t ask because [reasons], I will. The public has similar questions, I’m sure.
I am abrasive when I do it, because being nice has gotten no answers from anyone, and it spirals into “thoughts and prayers” until the next fatality.
You’re abrasive because you enjoy it. That’s how you chose to convey your concerns. Your actions to date over the years make that part plain, regardless of audience. Much like my dad, you like to argue for the fun of it. You justify it without any consideration for the damage it does to your image and reputation. You damage yourself and you don’t see it. You just can’t.
I’m going to tap out, as I know the end will always be the same. All snark as always.
You’re blocked, endless. Find another person you consider stupid and dull. I am out.
Peace out folks
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The goal may not be realistic but it is the goal.
Anyone who works in industry knows the safety mantra “goal zero”. Anything else gets corrective actions.
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That’s good data, but I want the whole fall reports. Redacted if needed.
If I knew horses fell at open corners in hard ground conditions in a shady location more than any other fence, for instance, course designers might opt to remove a fence that meets those descriptions, or riders could scratch.
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This is the type of thing that gets you in trouble. You act like anyone that takes their horse to an event doesn’t care about them. That’s not true and you know it. How you say and present things matters and you choose to show little empathy or understanding and then get upset when no one listens to you/ disregard you. You chose to be “blunt and ask the hard question” and that’s okay, but you need to understand that it might not be the best way to win people over to your side .
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Good gravy, I remember when this poster waged war against Ranch Riding, FFS.
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I guess I am trying to figure out the best way to do that, is it by having people email, start a petition , protest outside events ( okay just putting that one in to see who is paying attention not saying to do that 
). I would love to help out but I am not sure how.
Ranch riding, endurance, eventing, theres a list of unacceptable horse sports.
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i’m sorry to see the loss of any horse or rider. The stats with rotational falls drastically reduced is encouraging to see. It would be nice to see zero, but that’s not realistic with any sport really.
If we tried to stop anyone from entering any competition that carried any risk, there wouldn’t be any horse sport anymore. It’s not realistic.
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Ironically, ranch riding was designed to be a “more horse friendly” alternative to Western Pleasure. That wasn’t good enough either, I guess.
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Yep. I am weary of it…
endlessclimb - have you ever had a horse you owned or loved die in any way other than old age? Have you ever found a mare with a broken right femur waiting at the gate trembling in her perfectly level, safe, large paddock? Have you ever walked into the barn in the morning and found a buckskin mare standing very still in her 15 x 15 stall - looking… NQR. Closer inspection revealed she had badly dislocated her hip… no shavings on her, no messed up bedding, no scraping on the walls, no signs of a struggle of any kind. Both those mares had to be put down. I would cite you some other examples - but you would just laugh and find yourself amusing.
Who would you sneer at then? What conspiracies would you come up with? What clever accusations would you make about how that horse was endangered? What would you change about the paddock… the stall… everything? You present yourself as the expert - no matter what the topic. No matter what the discipline. On assorted threads.
Both those mares were young (7 & 10) and in excellent health - before you announce that they obviously were malnourished or abused or whatever…
I hope you never - despite all your loud and proud boasting - find your horse in a situation that tragic… with the inevitable outcome. Then you will not be smirking and patting yourself on the back.
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Bingo. Well said.
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