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This whole argument about âCulture of Indifferenceâ is absolutely ridiculous! Seriously people? Do you think ANYONE is indifferent??? What are they supposed to do? Hang out with you?
People address the issue of serious accidents in various ways. Some contribute $$ to the those working on solutions. Others do their own research on how to be safer for themselves personally. Others go out and volunteer (in a nice accommodating manner, not in an austere derogatory one) to be part of the research, and others sit on their arses coming up with lists and accusing anyone who does not agree with them of being okay with rider deaths.
Câmon people. Cut the negative derogatory âeveryone who does not play with me is indifferent⊠or incompetent⊠or rude⊠or whatever.â
And for those who keep saying, âDo something, do something!!!â then apply those words to yourselves. Actively involve yourself in some way other than trashing those who take issue with your statements, or pointing fingers at the âPowersâ saying they do not care, they are incompetent, they are indifferent, or golly gee, they were rude to me.
Yes we need more research and we need team players⊠and not a culture of finger pointing, naysaying, and bashing anyone who dares advocate for an alternate perspective.[/QUOTE]
Let us go back a moment and review.
Posts 47-50.
JER
We need an âEventing Death Listâ sticky at the top of this forum.
I will start a thread asking for one. Weâll see what happens. I prefer not to use watered-down (like âIn Memoriamâ) or euphemistic language here; plain language is what this topic deserves, just as it deserves to be kept front and center in the eventing community.
Wish me luck. 
Now, was she kidding, serious? I took it as a valid idea to perhaps remind us that these things happen and such a list is one we want to not add too.
<a href="http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/member.php?155034-Manahmanah">[B]Manahmanah[/B]</a> responded with
This is the sort of henny penny business we really do not need.
which does not make much sense. I asked for clarification âbecause?â which did not get a response and JER comes back with her culture of indifference comment which was a poignant point since Mana had not really stated a reason for her/his dislike, just a knee jerk response.
Her request for a sticky may not gain traction, but if someone finds it offensive or bothersome, give some reason. That shows more care of the topic than just a hand wave.
In any other sport, the risk accepted is done by like minded and aware human beings. In the equestrian world we have a partner with no real say in the matter, required trust, and little action in regards to their safety. We participate in Eventing not despite the horse, but because of it. if JER feels there is a culture of indifference it is because us humans are more concerned about our safety before that of the horse.
The proof is simple, we will not simple ease back on the difficulty of the sport. Instead, we wrap more bubble wrap around us, we create jumps that break so we donât get crushed and in the mean time, the fundamental reason we are allowed to jump fences is asked to do the impossible.
So I donât mind a list, because Iâd like the reminder that even one more human, one more horse is a failure in making change.
