If this is Corona Virus, why aren’t more horses showing symptoms? I think it’s something else and not contagious.
Most likely a weakened immune system from the stress of original issue caused horse to pick up Corona virus from a horse shedding with no symptoms. I still think its a weed or something in hay causing primary issues.
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If this is Corona Virus, why aren’t more horses showing symptoms? I think it’s something else and not contagious.[/QUOTE]
I hope that it’s something else, but she has a positive test result so the horse IS shedding virus. Personally, I would not be taking this risk for a riding lesson.
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Why would I have to assume that?[/QUOTE]
Because her own vet ran the test and referred her to CSU.
Regarding the lemon juice: i don’t know the science, but I know someone who successfully treated a horse prone to bladder stones by feeding him lemon juice. i don’t know the dosing. Like i said, hail Mary.
One of my show horses had stomach and pyloric ulcers. 7 weeks on full dose of gastroguard daily. $$$$$. Recheck. little to no improvement. 3 weeks of misoprostol and went for a recheck at four weeks. His stomach and pylorus were a beautiful pink color again. It has its own risks, but worth trying if you haven’t.
FWIW, talked to the local large veterinary hospital (not CSU) that treated some of last year’s outbreak and also to the federal (USDA) vet. I explained that positive horse is asymptomatic. They recommended that I avoid using the same trainer as is working with a horse that is attending this clinic for a month. If I do use this trainer, they want her to set aside special clothes and boots for using when she goes to work with the exposed horse; don’t work with any other horses until she has changed and had a shower.
They also would like it if the EXPOSED horse that my coach is working with had a fecal test done after the exposure. It is just that contagious and not a lot is known about how long the virus is active outside of the host–other forms of coronavirus can remain active for up to 7 weeks–a horse can shed virus for 21 days after becoming positive.
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Regarding the lemon juice: i don’t know the science, but I know someone who successfully treated a horse prone to bladder stones by feeding him lemon juice. i don’t know the dosing. Like i said, hail Mary.
One of my show horses had stomach and pyloric ulcers. 7 weeks on full dose of gastroguard daily. $$$$$. Recheck. little to no improvement. 3 weeks of misoprostol and went for a recheck at four weeks. His stomach and pylorus were a beautiful pink color again. It has its own risks, but worth trying if you haven’t.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I’ve read about using apple cider vinegar for that. Something about the pH. I’m guessing lemon juice is under that same theory…I think the pH of the two is similar.
Lemon juice and regular vinegar have similar pH values, with the lemon juice being slightly more acidic. http://chemistry.about.com/od/acidsbases/a/phtable.htm Keep in mind that the pH scale is log 10 based, so that 0.2 difference is bigger than it looks.
Apple cider vinegar is less acidic. And, man, is there a lot of pseudoscience out there regarding apple cider vinegar.
I’m new to this case and man does it suck. I’m very sorry.
I googled it and couldn’t really find a good article in English ( I’m from Germany) but perhaps check in to Autumn crocus (Meadow saffron?) poisoning. I could/would explain a lot of symptoms and it can hide very well in hay. Disabeling and taking the horse out of commission but not killing it. Good luck!
My horse’s re-test PCR is negative.
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Apple cider vinegar is less acidic. And, man, is there a lot of pseudoscience out there regarding apple cider vinegar.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I read some vet practice publications recommending it for kidney/bladder stones for horses, but the recommended daily amount was something like a full cup twice a day. Especially with as little hard feed as my horse is getting right now, no way he’d eat all that vinegar. I’ve given him a little splash in his food or water before, but nowhere near a cup.
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My horse’s re-test PCR is negative.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the update!
Good news IPEsq. Now I hope you can get the diagnostics done to find out what’s going on with him.
I am glad I re-tested because we had a fire evacuation very early this morning. So at least I don’t have to worry about a contagious horse at the evacuation location on top of all of that stress of the evacuation itself.
He will go to CSU next week although they called me today and the vet who wanted to look at the inguinal area will not be available, so we are doing the bone scan and I don’t know what else. That’s also the vet I use for injections and all of the sports med hard things, so if they find something on the nonentity scan that needs that vet to treat…I dunno? Maybe I will get super lucky and have the head of the sports med group there? I didn’t have time to make enough calls today.
Jingles for treatable answers next week
Too bad the inguinal exam is out…isn’t that about the only thing you haven’t had seriously looked at? Glad he’s negative on the CV thoygh…,you needed a break on something.
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After listening to his belly carefully, vet thought that was also unlikely–I did think of that one.
I suppose because we have had the no forward behavior before, they want to think it’s orthopedic again. But they have no idea where to start.
Another horse had a trip to CSU in late December for enteritis of unknown cause. They kept him a week because he did have a very high fever. We had very high winds here before that, so they think it was stress, but he’s another case of mystery belly things at the barn recently.
CSU is having a client appreciation dinner tonight for the field service clients. There will be a talk on nutrition. If I can still register for it and get away from my office early enough to drive there, I’m going to try to make it.[/QUOTE]
I’m re-reading this thread from page 1, to see if something new jumps out, and I just got to this post.
Did you ever find out what this horse from your barn had? What was the cause of the enteritis/“mystery belly thing”?
No, CSU never figured out the cause with that horse. They had him at the hospital for supportive care and tests for 5 days. He’s been ok since. That horse does have a history of belly issues…past colic surgery.
Thanks. Is everyone else in the barn doing ok, as far as manure output/quality? And do you still have the three doing the parking out stance? That is such a distinct posture, I hope there’s some common thread. The beet pulp??
Semi-related: Are you still under evacuation warnings? I have not been watching news or weather from up there, but I am getting red flag/fire danger warnings via phone alerts.
One of the three they think ulcers so he’s on Gastrogard. He has stopped biting at his sides. The other one I think is still parking out. My horse’s manure is not even a little bit extra wet anymore. I was having to give him small buckets of Gatorade water yesterday at the evacuation site because he didn’t much like the water there. All I did after they came back to the farm today was hand walk. Most were very tired.
A couple of horses had the runs from the evacuation stress. My vets and another practice came out to provide ulcergard and to check out the ones with the runs. They think it was just stress. They were better by the evening. No one else having any issues.
We got some drizzle this evening and supposed to get a little more rain/snow tonight so I don’t think we are under warnings. The wind also died down.
