WTH? Cat peeing on dog bed.

I don;t know why I’m bothering to argue, because you know you’re right and nothing anyone says will change your mind.

But, on the chance that someone with an open mind is reading this…

Cats don’t reason like humans. Cats know that suddenly when they go into the box to pee, it hurts. They associate the pain with the place, not the action. So they start to avoid the box, and try other places. Maybe one day there is less pain when they happen to be in the laundry basket, so they keep going there, or on soft things. If that hurts again, they’ll try different spots, and when their human isn’t getting the message often they’ll pee wherever they are and right in front of their person. Wake up call for sure!

But they don’t only go out of the box because of pain - sometimes it’s stress related or territorial. They want to let others in the house know that this area belongs to them, and they don’t have to be getting harassed to do it. Sometimes the reasons are very subtle, or not explainable.

And yes, you can train a cat with aversion techniques - that’s why scat mats and eye-sensor sprayers and such work. But whacking them AND RUBBING THEIR FACE IN POO is not the way to train. Yeah, it may work, but it’s cruel and I’m betting something else changed at about the same time so it was coincidence.

Cats are complicated and not for everyone. You really have to be willing to take the bad with the good.

If all medical issues are ruled out, try Prozac. It often works very well for inappropriate urination culprits.

I had no idea this thread was still going.

I’m NOT putting the cat on Prozac. That’s ridiculous. If he has no medical issues, I will try Feliway. If that doesn’t work then he’s going to a friend of mine. I’ve had many offers to take him, but apparently the whole “this cat MUST BE THE ONLY PET IN THE FAMILY” doesnt register, or he’ll bounce home to home.

Yes! It’s totally ridiculous to treat the cat for the anxiety that could be causing his issues! It is SO MUCH better to just pass him off to someone else who may have the same issues with him.

:rolleyes:

You know, LBM, there are a LOT of tools in the box that you can use to solve this cat’s issues. It’s a shame you’re so unwilling to use them.

Sorry Simkie, But I have 2 other cats, a dog, 2 horses and a baby on the way. I don’t have the time or inclination to take the cat to a cat shrink and get antidepressents for the cat. I think that it’s ridiculous to give an animal antidepressants. I’ll check out physical ailments and behavioural but that’s it.

I’d rather have the cat live in a dog free home happily, if not as the only pet then jack him up on medications.

Rolleyes right back at ya.

Sounds like a good plan. 'Hope it works out for all. :slight_smile:

having been through the same thing, I will give you some advice that is obviously to go hand in hand with a visit to the vet to check for painful medical conditions:

Yes, eliminating on “soft” items is 80- 90% of the time a sign that they are in urinary pain. They absolutely equate “going in the litter box” with OUCH, DAMNIT! So they find somewhere else to go. *Sometimes it is behavioral, but not in a “I’m gonna get you humans” way, it is directly a result of whatever negative stimuli they have received while trying to eliminate appropriately. Cat’s don’t “plot” to get us. (Except my cat, she is absolutely building a death ray in the basement)

Take the hoods off the litter boxes. With other animals in the house, it is entirely possible one or more of them is waiting until the culprit goes to use the box and “pinning” the cat in the box or jumping him as he comes out. OR the cat could just be afraid to go in a hooded box. Some cats (like people) are slightly claustraphobic.

What are the boxes near? The washer and dryer? Furnace? Any other loud thing that might start randomly while the cat is trying to use the box? Make sure the box is somewhere quiet, with an easy escape route. Make sure you have boxes in different rooms or if possible on different floors.

CLEAN THE DAMN BOX every day, sometimes twice a day if necessary. Use unscented litter. You think YOUR nose is sensitive? Jeebus. Poor cat. Try leaving your poo unflushed in the toilet for a few days to stack up and then see if YOU want to go use that space to relieve yourself. Poor kitty can’t hold his nose while he goes.

Yes, YOU can clean the box.

If the boxes are small, go bigger with at least one. With my kitty that was eliminating inappropriately, we went out and bought a HUGE plastic tub like this one:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-50-Gallon-Tote-Set-of-4-Titanium/15940602 (we just bought one, not four) LEAVE THE TOP OFF.

We cut out a U-shape on one long side since it was too tall for her to easily jump into, and filled it with 4 containers of kitty litter. It worked. She needed space to go without feeling confined, no top, and a quiet area away from the laundry room (scary washing machine) to go where she could get away from our other cat in a hurry if need be. This way she had all those things.

Lastly, if you can’t commit to get this kitty what he needs to be comfortable then either rehome him right away or put him down. He is picking up on your distress and your husband’s and it is only going to continue to make the situation worse.

Yes, it is just an animal. Yes, early pregnancy does intensify emotions. Yes, we all understand you are a dramatic person with a flair for hyperbole. But unless your entire blog is a lie, there is a kernel of your true personality/intent in all this peevishness. Why hold this kitty hostage to your pride?

You don’t want to make the effort to clean the box every day and make other accomodations to ensure he modifies his behavior, instead you would rather continue the cycle of inappropriate peeing and the punishment that follows. Even if it is just yelling at the cat, he has no idea why you are yelling at him unless you catch him in the act, and even then he may not equate the yelling with what he is peeing on.

Frankly, the cat deserves better. If you aren’t willing to modify YOUR behavior to solve this problem and to treat him with whatever meds the vet deems necessary (even if it is kitty prozac), then give him an easy passing over the rainbow bridge or invest the time to find him an appropriate home with people who understand this kind of cat behavior and will work to help kitty overcome it.

Sorry Simkie, But I have 2 other cats, a dog, 2 horses and a baby on the way. I don’t have the time or inclination to take the cat to a cat shrink and get antidepressents for the cat. I think that it’s ridiculous to give an animal antidepressants. I’ll check out physical ailments and behavioural but that’s it.

I’d rather have the cat live in a dog free home happily, if not as the only pet then jack him up on medications.

Rolleyes right back at ya.

Wow, I have your animal count and a parrot too, and a full time job and a husband who is gone via the Military quite frequently. I have a daughter with a busy show schedule and a son who takes fencing classes. So what?

All of us have “busy” lives. It’s no excuse.

It’s also not “jacking him up” on medications if he has an issue with anxiety (which your normal vet can diagnose/treat, no need to make an extra trip to a kitty shrink). Moving him to a home where he is the only pet will not cure this, at all. He will just be peeing on soft things at someone else’s house, still suffering from anxiety.

LBM, we are ALL busy. We are ALL stressed. It’s no excuse. This is a living animal that you are neglecting here.

Putting the cat on an anti anxiety med can be as simple as applying a transdermal gel to the inside of his ear flap a few times a week. You can’t possibly spare the 15 seconds that takes? Perhaps you should ask your vet about it when you take the cat in for his workup.

It’s pretty obvious that you just don’t want to deal with this cat and his issues, unless it’s easy, cheap and permanent fix. The only easy, cheap and permanent fix to this issue that’s fair to the cat is euthanasia. Perhaps you should discuss that with your vet, too.

[QUOTE=alittlegray;6045286]
having been through the same thing, I will give you some advice that is obviously to go hand in hand with a visit to the vet to check for painful medical conditions:

Yes, eliminating on “soft” items is 80- 90% of the time a sign that they are in urinary pain. They absolutely equate “going in the litter box” with OUCH, DAMNIT! So they find somewhere else to go. *Sometimes it is behavioral, but not in a “I’m gonna get you humans” way, it is directly a result of whatever negative stimuli they have received while trying to eliminate appropriately. Cat’s don’t “plot” to get us. (Except my cat, she is absolutely building a death ray in the basement)

Take the hoods off the litter boxes. With other animals in the house, it is entirely possible one or more of them is waiting until the culprit goes to use the box and “pinning” the cat in the box or jumping him as he comes out. OR the cat could just be afraid to go in a hooded box. Some cats (like people) are slightly claustraphobic.

This was done last week. No change.

What are the boxes near? The washer and dryer? Furnace? Any other loud thing that might start randomly while the cat is trying to use the box? Make sure the box is somewhere quiet, with an easy escape route. Make sure you have boxes in different rooms or if possible on different floors.

No they are near nothing loud.

CLEAN THE DAMN BOX every day, sometimes twice a day if necessary. Use unscented litter. You think YOUR nose is sensitive? Jeebus. Poor cat. Try leaving your poo unflushed in the toilet for a few days to stack up and then see if YOU want to go use that space to relieve yourself. Poor kitty can’t hold his nose while he goes.

My husband has been cleaning the boxes religiously every day.

Yes, YOU can clean the box.

Will you be paying for medical bills when I miscarry my baby? What about MY therapy bills? Been there, done that.

If the boxes are small, go bigger with at least one. With my kitty that was eliminating inappropriately, we went out and bought a HUGE plastic tub like this one:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-50-Gallon-Tote-Set-of-4-Titanium/15940602 (we just bought one, not four) LEAVE THE TOP OFF.

We cut out a U-shape on one long side since it was too tall for her to easily jump into, and filled it with 4 containers of kitty litter. It worked. She needed space to go without feeling confined, no top, and a quiet area away from the laundry room (scary washing machine) to go where she could get away from our other cat in a hurry if need be. This way she had all those things.

Lastly, if you can’t commit to get this kitty what he needs to be comfortable then either rehome him right away or put him down. He is picking up on your distress and your husband’s and it is only going to continue to make the situation worse.

Yes, it is just an animal. Yes, early pregnancy does intensify emotions. Yes, we all understand you are a dramatic person with a flair for hyperbole. But unless your entire blog is a lie, there is a kernel of your true personality/intent in all this peevishness. Why hold this kitty hostage to your pride?

What in the holy hell are you talking about, pride? Elaborate.

You don’t want to make the effort to clean the box every day and make other accomodations to ensure he modifies his behavior, instead you would rather continue the cycle of inappropriate peeing and the punishment that follows. Even if it is just yelling at the cat, he has no idea why you are yelling at him unless you catch him in the act, and even then he may not equate the yelling with what he is peeing on.

I don’t yell at the cat. I don’t hit the cat. Actually, I cried last night if you must know. That would be my hormones. The cat wasn’t around. Maybe he was ashamed. :rolleyes:

Frankly, the cat deserves better. If you aren’t willing to modify YOUR behavior to solve this problem and to treat him with whatever meds the vet deems necessary (even if it is kitty prozac), then give him an easy passing over the rainbow bridge or invest the time to find him an appropriate home with people who understand this kind of cat behavior and will work to help kitty overcome it.[/QUOTE]

You need to read for comprehension. And thanks for reading my blog!! :winkgrin:

Thank you for the helpful tips, those who have offered them. I will be trying Feliway, a bigger box and the full medical check up.

If this does not work, I will be rehoming the cat. I know, I know, I am a TERRIBLE HORRIBLE BITCH for doing so…I should put him to sleep or bring him to a cat shrink and investigate all possible avenues of his possible anxiety, which may or may not exist. Or the cat could just want to BE the dog? Or have the dog bed for himself, forcing the 75lb dog to sleep on the tile? I don’t know.

Everyone who suggested the antidepressants, feel free to Paypal me some money for the treatment. I’ll need it for gas in the truck, the vet appointments, and of course, the medication. Now, if that doesn’t work, feel free to send me MORE donations to cover the cost of professional cleaning when the cat starts pissing all over my baby’s furniture. You know, “soft stuff that I should learn to live without.” And medical copays for the sick baby who is breathing in cat piss.

I should have known better. Most of y’all are nuts.

:eek::eek::eek: and you call the people here nuts after that post!!! WOW:lol:

If a cat peeing is getting you this upset then parenthood will take you right on over the edge. Maybe you should take the Prozac and not the poor cat:yes:

Oh, I’m not upset. At first I was a little offended. Then I remembered where I was.

Sarcasm, my dear. Sarcasm.

No kidding. Parenthood is going to be one hell of a shock.

The prozac gel I got was about $15 every 3-4 months. Your vet can prescribe it at your cat’s workup, and call in refills as needed. It’s really not hard, and with a kid you’re going to be at the pharmacy a fair amount anyway. It isn’t any different than making sure a horse gets his bute or adequan or MSM - something they need to keep them comfortable.

Also, it’s not forever. A few months on the meds and my cat stopped his peeing, mellowed out, and is now quite happy in my herd.

But, I think rehoming him is the way to go since you obviously don’t want to deal with it anymore.

Best of luck to you and him.

[QUOTE=Simkie;6045472]
No kidding. Parenthood is going to be one hell of a shock.[/QUOTE]

Ditto. Wow. :eek:

And, having read just a post or two on your blog…you might want to think about what your kid (remember the internet is forever) or your kids friends might think if they happen upon it after they learn to read.

About what? That I never wanted kids?

How’s about we keep the chat to cats and not my impending child, since it’s really none of your business how I am going to parent? Or my blog?

Ironically, if you read more of her blog you will find some interesting posts. Like on August 30 she is wanting to know if you can give cats Zoloft… oh my but when another person suggests giving her peeing cat Prozac they are crazy:eek: Reading her blog explains ALOT :lol:

If you don’t want anyone reading your blog and commenting on it…don’t post it in your signature line. Geez Louise.

Thank you for the helpful tips, those who have offered them. I will be trying Feliway, a bigger box and the full medical check up.

If this does not work, I will be rehoming the cat. I know, I know, I am a TERRIBLE HORRIBLE BITCH for doing so…I should put him to sleep or bring him to a cat shrink and investigate all possible avenues of his possible anxiety, which may or may not exist. Or the cat could just want to BE the dog? Or have the dog bed for himself, forcing the 75lb dog to sleep on the tile? I don’t know.

Everyone who suggested the antidepressants, feel free to Paypal me some money for the treatment. I’ll need it for gas in the truck, the vet appointments, and of course, the medication. Now, if that doesn’t work, feel free to send me MORE donations to cover the cost of professional cleaning when the cat starts pissing all over my baby’s furniture. You know, “soft stuff that I should learn to live without.” And medical copays for the sick baby who is breathing in cat piss.

I should have known better. Most of y’all are nuts.

Yes, if you cannot rehome him ASAP to a home with people that are experienced at dealing with inappropriate elimination in cats, you should put him to sleep peacefully.

You aren’t going to have a miscarriage because you cleaned the cat box. You have almost certainly been exposed to toxoplasmosis in the past, and if you want to be sure you can request a simple blood test at your first prenatal visit. This will help you feel better about carrying out simple, every day chores and also help reassure you about the possiblity of picking it up by eating meat that is infected as well. I’m assuming you aren’t giving up all meat because you might be exposed that way, right? And like a previous poster mentioned, if you are cleaning the box every day it is a non issue.

Your blog says a lot about you. It is a good idea to carefully consider whether or not you want random strangers reading that kind of thing, and if you don’t then take the link out of your signature. If you don’t care, then don’t go high and to the right when random strangers on the internet read your blog and quickly realize your blog doesn’t match up with what you are saying here in some cases.

If you can’t afford treatment that is inexpensive and in most cases pretty successful for this kitty, you shouldn’t have him. Are you going to ask people to paypal you money to buy diaper rash ointment if your new baby has a red bottom and the random strangers you vent about it to on the web suggest desitin? You chose to have the cat/dog/horse/fish/houseplant/baby whatever, so you are accepting responsibility for the associated medical/vet care.

Frankly, my dear, I don’t think WE are the nutters in this case.