Xenophon Society formed to uphold classical principals

from what i understand ( and i havent looked at the site in a year) they are just about reminding folks that the traditional methods of dressage work well and should not be forgotten. And they also offer education oportunities for folks.

and, if my experience in the world of dressage is any indication, the average joe smoe dressage rider who wants to get an education is going to have one hell of a time finding a good trainer that practices correct dressage… so i beleive any org that is about teaching folks correct theory/practice is worthwhile.

what i dont get is why do folks feel the need to tear down something that is about doing good?

do you tear down the spca or the humane society or the usdf or any other specialty organization that has dues, educates etc?

if you dont want to join - dont. but to say these folks are bad just becuase they feel a need to voice their opinion and help educate others - is really silly.

the folks that started that org are some very well respected people. so i dont get it?

shouldnt we all be happy that there are more education opportunites for folks?

and fwiw, i dont subscribe - (i am not really a joiner :wink: but i would go to an event if there were one in my area. i think it would be interesting.

I haven’t looked at the site in quite a while also. I don’t really think it’s about making money. I think because of the direction dressage has been taking the original founders wanted to distance themselves from the controversy and newer methods used in competition. I’m not a joiner either (limited to this bb and another because it’s free). I

“something that’s doing good”

they haven’t done anything except make a website and say they are classical.

—"do you tear down the spca or the humane society or the usdf or any other specialty organization that has dues, educates etc? "—

The humane society educates?:rolleyes: :lol:

http://www.animalscam.com/organizations.cfm

I do agree that to tear at this Xenophon Society is without merit.
If and when they do more than take a stand on what is classical training and riding, then we may agree or not with them.

Right now, to use your example, to name themselves defenders of what is good, as those associations you mention do, is no ground for attack.

When they have an active track record, as those associations have by now, then you can say they are not on the level, they do it for the money, power, publicity, etc.:yes:

fwiw, where i live the humane society is a good thing… they have no kill policies etc, they also have various education programs… .

i have no idea what that are like elsewhere.

and re: doing good: they have gotten peopel talking, they have voiced an opinion ,they have done various symposiums, or the organizers of the org have done symposiums, all that is good stuff.

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fwiw, where i live the humane society is a good thing… they have no kill policies etc, they also have various education programs… .

i have no idea what that are like elsewhere.

and re: doing good: they have gotten peopel talking, they have voiced an opinion ,they have done various symposiums, or the organizers of the org have done symposiums, all that is good stuff.[/QUOTE]

You are aware that “no kill” policies, in general animal control/rescue work, are not seen as sustenable or reasonable policies?

Who do you think gets all those extra animals the “no kill” people can’t take in, because of those “no kill” policies keep their turnover so low and so no place for the next needy animal?
Why is it better to warehouse unadoptable animals than euthanize them?

I am just making a point here, that, unless you are very well aquainted with a situation, their problems and what is being done, it is hard to have an opinion that makes sense for that situation.

No representative of the Xenophon Society has been controversial, speaking in the name of the society, that I know of.
As of now, that society has not really given much, as a society, for people to pick on it, as some are trying to.

That was my point.

French version of Xenophon Society

http://www.allege-ideal.com/index.php?lang=en

dressage4fun—Where are you located? Please PM me.

My instructor teaches the classical principles. She studies with Melissa Simms and attended the Neindorff school in Germany for a time.