I keep reading mention of Knabstrupper ponies, but have yet to find a good picture, or a breeder website on the interent… I would assume, since knabstruppers are quite rare here, there are no US breeders of the ponies, but I have tried every search term I could think of to find them… anyone know of a good link? 
While there is a category for Knabstrupper ponies in the KNN, I truly do now know of anyone breeding them. Maybe a niche for someone here!
One of our full leopard Apollon fillies only made it to 15 hands. Maybe she’d make a good date with Kathy’s new Belafonte German Riding Pony!
SportNCurls.
I’ve wanted to entertain breeding Spotted Sport Ponies for awhile. I have no seen a single breeder anywhere doing this…which A) means there’s no demand or B) no one’s gotten that far yet.
I’ve thought of the Knab X Welsh or GRP.
Would be interesting to see who chimes in here and what they have to say.
I know the spots never made the impact that the Pinto did…but again I’m not sure how fierce the attempts have been. But I know that in horse sized, it doesn’t even appear that the WB or TB X Appies have hit huge either… JG appaloosa’s and Cloverlone are two that come to mind that had god’s honest quality Appy Sport stock.
There are several breeders of Knabstrupper ponies in Europe
but none in the USA.
The niche for spotted ponies is pretty well filled by the POA here, though I guess there is always room for another.
Merete Norring has recently written a book on Spotted ponies in Europe.
In English as well as Danish, and it’s a super book for looking up the equivalent word in Danish with regards to the spotted vocabulary.
She also has an email list for a spotted pony newsletter.
PM me if you want her email.
MW
There are so many issues with the POA in the US. Politics, rules, not to mention the actual type, not sport built etc.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some really NICE POA’s, but general rule I’ve seen is they are few and far between, and actually being bred for sport (event/HJ/Dressage etc) is on the not as common side.
Perhaps we should look at what is being done over in Europe and the success and then why it ISN’T being done here in the US?
I would love to have a large black leopard spotted sport pony!!!
this is already done in Britian:
http://www.britishspottedponysociety.co.uk/stallion-directory.htm
and in Switzerland:
http://www.bonnieponies.ch/
while not all are Sport type some are
Tamara in TN
In my opinion, that’s pretty much it. Definitely, if someone starts breeding them here, there will be a small niche for them…emphasis on “small”.
The pony hunter market is still the most successful place to sell ponies to, and to be honest, it is still hard to to sell a pinto pony or POA pony to that market. They seem to have to work twice as hard just to prove themselves, and the buyers out there willing to gamble on a pinto pony or POA pony is very small. I normally stay away from them as resale ponies unless I find a really fabulous one!
Maybe others have had a different experience than I have…but I find pinto and POA ponies extremely hard to move. I’m thinking a Knabstrupper pony would be harder. But if someone did the “new breed of the week” thing, like with the Gypsy Vanners a few years ago, you could probably cash in for awhile until the hype ran out! 
What Tamara in TN said.
Why would anyone want a “Knabstrupper pony”? If you want a Knabstrupper, buy a Knabstrupper (a real one, not a US one). If you want a spotted pony, buy a POA or a British Spotted Pony.
:rolleyes:
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What Tamara in TN said.
Why would anyone want a “Knabstrupper pony”? If you want a Knabstrupper, buy a Knabstrupper (a real one, not a US one). If you want a spotted pony, buy a POA or a British Spotted Pony.
Good grief. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
or put a Knabstrupper stallion to a welsh section B mare maybe bay or chestnut…and go from there…I dislike coloreds (apps pinto and so on) but that is just a prejudice developed from years of seeing "color first and everything else last breedings "
I remember being blown away by the quality of the European “appaloosas” when I first saw their photos 20 some years ago…
but QH with spots…not so much :lol:
Tamara in TN
I don’t follow you
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What Tamara in TN said.
Why would anyone want a “Knabstrupper pony”? If you want a Knabstrupper, buy a Knabstrupper (a real one, not a US one). If you want a spotted pony, buy a POA or a British Spotted Pony.
Good grief. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
What’s the difference between a “real Knabstrupper” and a US one?
All our Knabstruppers are Danish and German bloodlines bred to permitted mares and inspected and approved by the KNN.
We get the same scores or better from the same judges as the Danish breeders do, so why are ours inferior?
MW
I’m not convinced either, that a nicely conformed, moving, sane spotted pony wouldn’t be sellable either.
I think the large difference, in my opinion… is that a lot of the POA’s are still western or hunter built/bred… not so much the sport build…
But the pony market is JUST coming into itself… and primarily, ponies is still most sellable to the hunter field, like already noted.
But still would love to see a large, sport built, spotted pony…primarily dressage, but maybe a 3day type mount.
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What’s the difference between a “real Knabstrupper” and a US one?
All our Knabstruppers are Danish and German bloodlines bred to permitted mares and inspected and approved by the KNN.
We get the same scores or better from the same judges as the Danish breeders do, so why are ours inferior?
MW[/QUOTE]
Are they?
Quote:
The Danish KNN has named its first “daughter association!” Italy is the first, and only, daughter association approved by the Danish KNN which is based in Denmark - home of the fabulous spotted Danish horses and ponies known as Knabstruppers! For more information see the KNN website and check back for current and accurate information about this breed which has grown in interest since SHOC began recognizing them worldwide, and registering them in SHOC in 1998. The Danish were approached by Americans in 2004 or 2005 to start an American branch/association with the KNN in the U.S.A. but the KNN declined these Americans. To date, there is no Knabstrupper Association in North America approved or working with the KNN’s approval.
–from a SHOC web page, here: http://www.shoc.org/Knabstruppers.html
If they are not keeping their page up to date, and things have changed, then I am glad!
Don’t commit me to it, but I think SHOC is way out of date…Are they even a real registry anymore?
They are WAY out of date
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Are they?
Quote:
The Danish KNN has named its first “daughter association!” Italy is the first, and only, daughter association approved by the Danish KNN which is based in Denmark - home of the fabulous spotted Danish horses and ponies known as Knabstruppers! For more information see the KNN website and check back for current and accurate information about this breed which has grown in interest since SHOC began recognizing them worldwide, and registering them in SHOC in 1998. The Danish were approached by Americans in 2004 or 2005 to start an American branch/association with the KNN in the U.S.A. but the KNN declined these Americans. To date, there is no Knabstrupper Association in North America approved or working with the KNN’s approval.
–from a SHOC web page, here: http://www.shoc.org/Knabstruppers.html
If they are not keeping their page up to date, and things have changed, then I am glad![/QUOTE]
We have now had two KNN inspections here in the USA. One last year and one this year.
We had 34 horses inspected and 4 stallions got approvals, from the KNN judges.
So sorry no, SHOC are way out of date.
MW
SHOC??? ROFLMAO.
because the only POA’s I have seen are large pony, western build and the only “spotted pony” that is smaller then a 14hh/ 14.2hh POA are minis … not interested.
Last time I looked I didn’t see anyone that bred British spotted ponies around here… and from the link that was sent by another poster they look to be all over the place on size and type… from a mini to welsh cross looking (now those are cute).
I thought a baroque spotted pony, or a spotted sport pony would look cute, and every knabstrupper article I read mentioned ponies, and how they were popular in Europe. I am just curious
but I have curlies, so you know I must not be “quite right”, yes? :lol:
This link was sent to me privately:
http://www.knabstrupperforeningen.dk/sider/kaar_2010_Italien.htm
(some are horses, some are ponies as indicated by a P or S I didn’t see a “K” on that page which is supposed to indicate classic knab type??)
There are 2 on there I like, the rest I wasn’t as impressed as I had hoped to be… but that last one is a cute! 
hopefully that will come in…about halfway down, the pony Cinzano…you may want to look for the stallion Klaus KNN 47 and go forward in time from him…
Tamara in TN
I’ve tended to find ponies on the hard side to move, - bear in mind I don’t deal in ponies, I’ve just had a few over the years for the boys to compete on as they were growing into their horses. I should re-define that. they were hard to find, easy to sell. I’m talking just your basic little packer for jumping xc 2,6 2,9 heights. Hard to find ones that weren’t going to cost as much as the down payment on the farm.
My family is english, and hence we still have relatives that side of the pond who come over to visit now and then - at shows when they happen to hit one, they are always quite surprised at the lack of ponies being shown - with small kids on full sized horses on the west coast side here.
I still have one in PC - every spring, he takes his pony out, dusts him off, and all the new members are like omg a pony!!!
As they are tromping around on 16hh horses, trying to get their little 7 year old heels past the saddle flaps.
I’ve never understood the fascination we have out here in the west to have small kids on big horses.
My son chooses each spring one PC horseless little one who can use his pony for the year, since he’s on his big mare now. (the whole 14.3hhs of her - but she thinks she’s big)
