I was wondering what everybody uses and if they actually work well. I know that neighlox is popular, does anybody use U7?
For all of these supps (plus rinitidine, cemitideine, etc.) is it important to give it BEFORE mealtime?? Before both (or all 3) mealtimes??? Or can it/they go ON the feed???
This is really good info, guys!
I have two on the Aloe juice that you can get at Wal-mart, but I discovered Publix carries it even cheaper – not much, but a little bit and we can pick it up at the grocery store, rather than having to make a trip to Wally World, which this time of the year really gives me the creeps, but is handily only a mile from the barn!
I feed 1 cup 2x a day, and I think it helps. They haven’t had any trouble with the taste.
CE – thanks for the info on the herbal stuff. I’m going to pass that along to Bear’s mom.
Libby
Wow, so many horses with ulcers! My favorite supplement is 24/7 turnout and free choice hay.
24 HR. turnout in herd, free choice hay, hay extender or forage extender for “grain” if needed for extra calories or for horses who can’t eat hay, Organic ABC Plus Vit/Min., no chemicals, no artificials, no colorings, no vaccinations and Ration Plus when indicated. Salads with varied veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds on regular basis (couple times week - just a handful) and if you have pine (white pine) branches with fresh needles, they’ll eat those and that will help ulcers.
onwego, I use U-7. I love it. It’s the only way we could get this racehorse to eat - including double dosing Gastroguard. There is another aloe type product called Ulceraide that has been helping a rescue horse in my barn. That aloe is good stuff. I have even put my mouth under the U-7 pump when I had excruciating heartburn, and it took away the burn as it was going down my throat. The Ulceraide also has some probiotics in it too. I am a believer.
Do people take aloe pills for stomach ulcers? I did make my roommate drink aloe daily for a month for his gastroesophageal reflux disease. It didn’t help at all
Let me know if they’ll send you a sample! I’m intruiged with their claims. I wonder if my cats would eat the pet crumbles…
Aloe vera juice…he gets 1 cup once a day.
I have been told that you have to introduce some horses more gradually because of the taste, but he eats anything that lands in his feed bucket.
I was very careful to make sure that he got it every day for over a month. Now it has been several months and if I miss a day it doesn’t seem to make any difference. Someday I am going to do some research and see if I could feed less or less often, but for now…it’s working.
I buy it at Walmart, $7/gal.
It is whole processed aloe leaves. I have heard pros and cons about whole leaves vs. gel only. This seems to work.
i have to recommend gastroguard for horses with ulcer problems. it’s mucho expensive but it works wonders.
my horse had terrible colic-causing ulcers, the gastro guard healed every ulcer PERFECTLY in only a month.
we keep him on neigh-lox which appears to be working well.
What did it cost to have the ulcer scoping done?
U-7: The string I slave to will not consume U-7 over feed, has to be syringed in. It stinks up your clothes to high heaven, with all the spitting back out the mouth they do whilst trying to hold theirs heads up to keep it in their mouths. In fact it smells so bad, that one time when I had just open the jug, trainer caught a wiff & accussed me of not keeping a clean stable. I shoved it under his nose & told him he owes me for the laundry mat to get it out of my clothes for having to use this stuff!!! But it does seem to work.
Whole Aloe Vera in a blender: Be sure to remove the skin. I lived on a island once where aloe prodcution was once a major income producer. Do not recall off the top of my head the exact why’s, I just know the skin needs to be removed.
Frankly, I like plain aloe vera for the horses & myself too. Works nicely. 1 cup, 2 times per day for the horses. I use Lily of the Desert, but the race horses get George’s-the sworn by brand for race trackers.
Here is part of a report from the Equine Medicie & Surgery in Louisiana.
Re: Use of PalaMOUNTAINS Equine Plus in race Horses with Equine Gastric Ulcer Syndrome, a field study by Ken P.Reed, D.V.M.
11 thoroughbred race horses in training were gastro-scoped for the presence of Ulcers. Nine horses were positive (Grade 1 through 4 on a scale of 1 to 5,)and were place on PalaMOUNTAINS Equine Plus. The nine horses that were positive were gastro-scoped at 3 to 4 weeks. The results were very encouraging especially in the grade 3 to 4 horses. It has been suggested Omega-3 fatty acids help reduce gastric ulceration and secretion as well as reduce stomach bacteria that cause ulceration.
May I ask what you paid for the 50lbs of aloe pellets? Thanks.
I’m surprized no one has mentioned Succeed ? A fairly new product to the market I had heard great things and I’m a user. Expense is about $3.00 a day.
Here is the link
http://www.succeeddcp.com/index.asp
Amy
I found this interesting article while trying to answer my own question above about TUMS. It discusses a number of the “human” forms of these anti-ulcer drugs and the dosage for horses. (i.e., 4 Zantacs = 300 mg of Ranitidine - Ulcerguard. Or 8 Prilosec OTC = 1 dose of Gastroguard). I have not independently confirmed – just quoting the article.
See Page 10-11 of http://www.tucsondressageclub.org/pdf/april2004.pdf
has anyone used G.U.T. or heard anything about it? My vet suggested we give that a try for my mare. I’ve tried everything to get her gain weight and the vet has examined every avenue of infection, disease, parasites, etc. with no results. I can’t afford to get her scoped right now, but she has been under a great deal of stress the last year, and is rather stoic about pain issues, but she has become increasingly girthy, her coat leaves something to be desired, and she’s too skinny.
Annnyway, I have to change my smartpaks this weekend to include something new for her tummy…
Aloe juice in a syringe?
How much?
How often?
Lookout- Diarrhea can be a sign of ulcers.
Eventer55,
Zantac is the brand name and ranitidine is the drug name (like Advil is ibuprofen, but you can buy ibuprofen that is not Advil brand).
So, 4 pills only =300mg if they are 75mg pills regardless of what manufacturer. You can also buy 150mg OTC. I think the 300mg pills are only available with Rx.
This is the only source I have seen that advocates 300mg 2xs/day. The recommended dose most often seen is 6.6mg/kg, which is closer to 50 pills 2xs/day for a 1200lb horse.
Is there a link to the company website, or phone # you could share?
I found this company, which is cheaper: $59.95 for a 50lb bag and $5 flat shipping charge: