She won. 
Make it 11!
WOT A WOMAN!
I love them both, if only they could run in Arkansas. They have both run and won there, so it would be neutral ground. Has Zenyatta won anywhere but Ark and California?
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Per Jerry Moss Sat June 27th they will consider shipping Zenyatta out of California to take on Rachel Alexandra:[/QUOTE]
That is very sporting of them. I hope that they will actually consider that, but I think it is going to help RA more in terms of HOY. If Rachel runs her race, there is no way that Zenyatta will ever catch her. I dare say that Rachel is the greatest filly of all time. She breaks records being geared down. She races the clock and immortality, not the other horses. Zenyatta just raced in the wrong two years.
Link to the race - please!!!
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That is very sporting of them. I hope that they will actually consider that, but I think it is going to help RA more in terms of HOY. If Rachel runs her race, there is no way that Zenyatta will ever catch her. I dare say that Rachel is the greatest filly of all time. She breaks records being geared down. She races the clock and immortality, not the other horses. Zenyatta just raced in the wrong two years.[/QUOTE]
I’ll book that bet. Nothing wrong with being a fan of one horse vs. the other but to say that Zenyatta raced in the wrong two years is insane. Get a grip, she has never lost a race, how on earth can that be wrong? Believe it or not these horses don’t run to impress you, they run to make money. I can’t see how anyone on the planet can fault what she has done.
If they were to send Zenyatta east, do you suppose the two Wonder Women would hook up in the Alabama? What’s the other huge Saratoga classic for females?
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I’ll book that bet. Nothing wrong with being a fan of one horse vs. the other but to say that Zenyatta raced in the wrong two years is insane. Get a grip, she has never lost a race, how on earth can that be wrong? Believe it or not these horses don’t run to impress you, they run to make money. I can’t see how anyone on the planet can fault what she has done.[/QUOTE]
I’m not knocking Zenyatta. She is a star in her own right. However, fiction can be fun, but I prefer the reference section, and the reality of the situation is that Zenyatta was not HOY last year. Rachel is the front runner for HOY this year because she has done more this year. So, she did race in the wrong two years because she happened to run against two other superstars and the main goal for Zenny is the HOY title according to her owners.
If they meet up, one of them has to lose. I’d rather take the more talented horse with the tactical speed, you know, the one that breaks stakes records almost every time out while being geared down.
Horses run to impress me? That’s a real laugh. I just like to watch good horses run. I like to own horses and I like to ride horses. They are my life.
Pride is more important to me than money, which is why I mostly quit posting on this board. So, if Zenny and Rachel meet up and they are both in form, I’ll take Rachel even though she is the younger horse. Now if you’ll excuse me, one of my broodmares half-brother is running, so I must go watch him race.
Link to Vanity replay can be found within this B-H article:
Funny post. I think Zenyatta is quite a bit better than Mine That Bird (and twice his size), and he came very close. It is a race I would love too see.
Azeri?
are lucky that mares like Zenyatta and Azeri have run past three.
I thought Azeri was he colt who blew everyone away in thed BC Juvenile a few years ago; but, by the derby he ws washed out, and track sour?__________________
You’re thinking of Arazi.
Here’s Champion supermare Azeri taking the Apple Blossom for the third time. 
The Alabama is for three year old fillies. Are you thinking of the Beldame at Belmont? or the Ruffian?
I was thinking of the Diana, but that’s a turf race. Since Zenyatta has been running on cushion, she might be decent on turf, but Rachel A? Not so sure. The Beverly D at Arlington has an even bigger purse than the Diana, but it’s also a turf race. It looks to me as the races for Fillies and Mares that are the “right” distance with the biggest purses are on turf.
The Beldame would be probably the race for the matchup if it were to take place this year.
Any other suggestions of races where they might meet outside of California? I’d think any track would kill for this.
I’m not sure - despite Jerry’s comments - that she’ll take on RA until the early fall as they appear to want to match (and break) Personal Ensign’s 13-race win streak. There is no way on this earth they’d take on Rachel and seriously risk loosing to her before those next 2 races, at least - Associated Press June 27
Zenyatta is just two wins shy of matching Personal Ensign’s perfect 13-race career.
“Well, we can certainly shoot for that,” said Jerry Moss, who owns the mare with his wife Ann. “She was a fantastic filly, Personal Ensign.”
By the way Jerry doesn’t knock Jess for scoffing at the synthetic tracks of California:
“I’m not too crazy about the synthetic tracks either. I don’t mind him talking up about that, maybe it will serve a purpose,” Moss said. “And hopefully we will meet somewhere. If not the Breeders’ Cup, maybe it will be somewhere else. I think time will tell on something like that and we will go from there.”
The TVG guys said the m-word (“match race”) and I’d tune in to watch that. Even weights (126?) over a neuteral track…and it would end up a match race anyway unless it was a mixed-gender race to begin with because if they had Zenyatta and RA in one race I’m not sure who would feel like sending out a sacrifice filly to run for show money. Colts I could see a few trying, though it might be hard to argue that they should give weight to either one.
I honestly don’t know who I would root for. They are both so spectacular. Seems a shame one would have to lose.
Zenyatta is amazing in her own right. I love her.
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The TVG guys said the m-word (“match race”) and I’d tune in to watch that. Even weights (126?) over a neuteral track…and it would end up a match race anyway …[/QUOTE]
That is the rub - a match race makes tracks almost no money. What is the motivation for the track in 2009 to offer a fat purse of say $400k to the winner and $0 to the loser for a non-graded or at best overnight stakes race? Sure fans will show up but it’s rare that the enthusiasm will convert to the revenue to break even.
Maybe someone knows racing better then I do and can explain this but why in the world would a 3-yr vs. a 5-yr old have even weights? They simply would not. If both horses ran in the Jockey Club Gold Cup or even the Breeders’ Cup Classic they would have different weights as racing since the beginning of time recognizes that there is a need for an age for weight break.
Going by BCC weight rules here, I’m sure as soon as someone gives Zenyatta 126 and Rachel Alexandra 122, for example, the whines will appear and if Zenyatta was to lose people would say the race wasn’t fair.
For the record, per the DRF her connections have confirmed the next race for Zenyatta: $300,000 Clement Hirsch Stakes at Del Mar on August 9th. That eliminates any Saratoga showdown against Rachel Alexandra. They want to race in the Clement Hirsch because she would not have a handicap weight. Rather she’ll tote just 123 as would the rest of the field, save for any 3-yr olds given 119.
If they follow the same plan as last year - which they suggested they may just do - then her following race would be Lady’s Secret Stakes at Santa Anita.
Meaning her 13th career start and most certainly final one would be her toughest: the Breeders’ Cup Classic against the boys for the first time.
Seemingly the only chance for a matchup could be to skip the Lady’s Secret and ship east to take on Rachel Alexandra (most like) in the $300,000 Ruffian Handicap at 1 1/16 miles at Belmont Park on September 12, 2009.
(It is shocking but seemingly keeping with the times that her career will be done almost certainly at just 13 lifetime races)
If Zenyatta doesn’t run against Rachel, won’t that taint both of their records? The two best female horses for quite some time racing at the same time and not ever meeting?
For Zenyatta, it might be said that the quality of California racing is not as high as the quality in the east/ rest of the country that horses ship to for big races, and that she is avoiding competition for her record.
For Rachel, JJ’s seeming aversion to California tracks and racing will keep her out of the only probable matchup this year.
Why wouldn’t Belmont put up some extra purse money for the Ruffian if they could get a RA-Zenyatta hook up?
