Sorry to continue the thread derail, but this was my thinking, too. Arabian breeders almost always do this - stud fees to purebred mares are higher than to crossbred/non-Arab mares. Decades ago, when purebreds were worth more than Half Arabians (the reverse is almost always true today, at least when it comes to performance horses), this was the logic. Why the practice continues today is a mystery to me - the good old horseman’s adage of “that’s the way we’ve always done it”, I guess.:rolleyes:
I believe Xenodon passed away.
Oh no! That’s a shame
You might check out Noles as a nice sporthorse TB stallion prospect. He’s in Gordonsville - owned by Sarah Warmack.
I am all in favor of the VA certified program but if anything, it helps boarding and training operations, NOT breeding. People can get the benefits of restricted races and owners bonuses without having a VA-sired or bred horse. There is hopefully a future for racing in VA but not for breeding except on the part of a very few committed people.
Sorry for another derail!
Thank you! Googled and found a little info online - she apparently presented him sBs, and he was approved with good scores on movement. Her Facebook page says he is available for outside mares. Looked him up on pedigree query too, and he has Key to the Mint and Damascus in the first 3 gens… proven names for sport horse purposes.
https://www.pedigreequery.com/noles
Definitely interesting. Her Facebook had pictures of some other nicely bred young prospects… really interesting.
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I have a really nice mare that I’ve been SO tempted to send to him for the past few years, but common sense wins out, as I’m too old and broke down to start breeding again. My last baby is 14 years old.
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If you are willing to widen your search area, we have some nice TB stallions here in MD to consider.
IIRC, there are also some nice TB’s in NC as well.
Definitely willing to check out options in Maryland. North Carolina not so much.
The TB stallions do need to be available to sporthorse mares - the mare in question is not full TB. She has had two foals from AI previously, and her most recent from live cover. She was well behaved, and caught first try on live cover, after having issues with AI during a prior season. Since she will be open this year, and possibly next, and given she’s in her late teens, I’m thinking it’s wise to look at live cover options for my hoped for final foal.
And I definitely want to cross her to a TB.
Ok - let me ask a few folks who are mostly racing people if they will breed to “outside mares” and find out what the fees are - IIRC, one breeder I know has some very nice lines that are well respected and I think she said the farm charges less for sport horse mares than full TB’s since they cannot be raced, but I’ll double check.
I’ll try contacting the farm sometime within the next few weeks and I’ll get back with you.
RFF Abracadabra is a newer stallion. Only able to produce Buckskin/Pal. $950 stud fee with collection. One of the taller dilute TB stallion around. I know he will be showing this fall in Eventing, with plans to campaign 1* in the spring.
I thought he was only 5? And just failed an Oldenburg stallion inspection (I’m assuming Old NA) supposedly due to “fitness” issues?
Why do they think he will be ready to compete in a 1* come spring, as a young 6 year old? Not trying to be rude… but that doesn’t make sense to me. They would have had to have been competing him for a few years if he was going to be ready to move up like that come spring… and if they had been successfully competing him this season as a training/prelim horse, I would think he would have been sufficiently fit for a basic stallion inspection.
Am I missing something?
His conformation is not what I would choose in a breeding stallion. Just my opinion, which you can take or leave. Color seems to be the basis of his advertisement. http://www.horseofcorff.com/rff_abracadabra.htm
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^Yup. There’s also a YouTube video of him, that I checked out after I posted. He’s not what I am looking for.
There are some great TB stallions in WV, right across the line. I bred my non-TB mare to Evangelism and have a lovely 4 month old colt. I’m breeding for myself, for sport horse - foxhunter, eventer, hunter. Mare is 1/2 TB, 3/8 Trak, 1/8 Perch, but really just looks like a TB.
I think Well Said still stands in WV, and he has had some babies that look pretty nice and compete locally-- plus he is the very typical AP Indy type, which I really like.
I’ve been told that he is throwing some exceptional sporthoses. His owner Shannon O’Rourke is good people
I have met Remarquez in person and owned a Remarquez daughter, who was my heart horse. I highly recommend Remarquez not just because of his conformation, but his temperament as well. He has a very amateur friendly personality. Very sensitive though, and ultimately very responsive to aids. His foals have very good minds. His personality is enough to temper even the hottest mares. I’ve seen him move and I like his movement. Very versatile, as are his foals. Unfortunately, most of them are retained for breeding purposes because of their color, and ultimately not broken or competed. I have a mare bred to him this year who has very nice movement and conformation, with a little more bone than him. I cannot wait for this foal in 2021!! As for Snowy River, he was a very nice stallion movement wise and he had excellent bone for a Thoroughbred. I believe he was exported to Germany though. It’s a shame all these colored TBs aren’t competing, but I will be showing my mares foal for sure. Remarquez is a very special stallion, but only those who have had the gift of knowing him and/or owning one of his foals would understand.
If you are interested in a good minded TB stallion for sport check out Raven Sky at Merle-Smith sporthorses in Louisa Va. Very impressive young stallion.
https://www.virginiafieldhunters.com/raven-sky
Check Starquine (Google) for a listing of nice stallions available for less than advertised stud fees, different terms apply. Melissa Mayo is in W VA and has a TB stallion with several crosses to the Good Twist/Gem Twist lines up close. He’s a nice boy but not a big stallion. She is a friend and an eventer. Wasn’t there a strange story about what happened to Milkie and the last person that owned him? Anybody remember?
