2016 Belmont Stakes winner . . .

BH blogger “Keelerman” rambles on about the field in BH. Doesn’t have any more clues to the race than the NTRA has to keep horse racing out of bankruptcy.

One interesting point he made is about how close can SBN stay to the pace. The big Sandy is a challenging surface. EFH did show that he can not carry weight like dual qualifers Exxagerator and Brody’s Cause.

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/unlocking-winners-handicapping/archive/2016/05/26/an-early-look-at-the-belmont-stakes.aspx

[QUOTE=Where’sMyWhite;8682621]
:lol:

Stud career… if neither is descended, would he be pretty infertile??? Sounded like from the Bloodhorse article that the little swimmers might be too warm to be very viable…[/QUOTE]

Which is why many stallions are no longer available at stud in July and August. :wink:
The stallion doesn’t go on vacation, but the swimmers do.

Anybody think this maiden has a chance of even getting on the board?

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/triple-crown/maiden-trojan-nation-confirmed-belmont-stakes/

Hit the board, maybe :slight_smile:

Given he did finish second in the Wood Memorial against terrible odds, 81-1 I think they said.

Win? IMO, not a chance. I think there is too much other class in the field for that. Will be interesting to see if the lesser horses continue to stay lesser horses or if one really steps up to the plate.

When there is not a horse that won the first 2 legs prices drop. Wonder what effect it has on TV advertising rates.

Got sent this;

The table for 6 in the Garden Terrace Dining Room for the Belmont Stakes on Sat, June 11 has been DEEPLY DISCOUNTED well below face value. The table’s face value cost is $3,000 ($500 per seat) from NYRA. The table owner as now dropped the price to $350 per seat or $150 below face value. You can buy a minimum of two seats or the whole table for six. The whole table price is $2,000 which is a $100 less than the $350 per seat price. It includes clubhouse admission, program, gourmet buffet lunch, all beverages and tax and tip. The table is on the third level to the right of the finish line. This table will be sold on a first come, first serve basis.

[QUOTE=merrygoround;8688487]
Which is why many stallions are no longer available at stud in July and August. :wink:
The stallion doesn’t go on vacation, but the swimmers do.[/QUOTE]

There are a number of stallions in KY that are available for Southern Hemisphere breeding. Maybe they have air conditioned stalls.

I remember being told as a teenager if you don’t have “protection” in your wallet and there is a Hot Tub available take a long hot soak before getting down to business.

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There are a number of stallions in KY that are available for Southern Hemisphere breeding. Maybe they have air conditioned stalls.[/QUOTE]

Remember that Southern Hemisphere July and August is their winter so AC is probably not as needed there as the same months would here.

[QUOTE=Where’sMyWhite;8689755]
Remember that Southern Hemisphere July and August is their winter so AC is probably not as needed there as the same months would here.[/QUOTE]

Not stallions that have shipped, stallions that stay in KY but are offered to service a mare on Southern Hemisphere “time”. A number of mares are bought after foaling and left here to be cover by non dual hemisphere stallions and then shipped in the fall after the foal is weaned. Sometimes the seller will keep the weanling or the buyer will sell the weanling or as a yearling here.

I wish there was another Rags to Riches in the race.

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Not stallions that have shipped, stallions that stay in KY but are offered to service a mare on Southern Hemisphere “time”. A number of mares are bought after foaling and left here to be cover by non dual hemisphere stallions and then shipped in the fall after the foal is weaned. Sometimes the seller will keep the weanling or the buyer will sell the weanling or as a yearling here.[/QUOTE]

My misunderstanding on your first post :slight_smile: Yes, live cover in KY for southern hemisphere mares on their calendar could make it challenging for the swim teams :slight_smile:

Thought this was interesting…I certainly hope that this takes him a step in the right direction. However, five days? Seems like something to appease the officials and owners.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/212177/desormeaux-to-return-to-riding-after-rehab

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I wish there was another Rags to Riches in the race.[/QUOTE]

That was some race, but it did her in. She only ran one more time, finished 2nd and retired.

[QUOTE=merrygoround;8688487]
Which is why many stallions are no longer available at stud in July and August. :wink:
The stallion doesn’t go on vacation, but the swimmers do.[/QUOTE]

If neither testicle is descended, the horse will be sterile. I’m assuming they would remove the undescended testicles when he is retired as they can turn cancerous.

If a stallion has normal fertility, it shouldn’t drop significantly in the summer. The jewels hang low when the weather is hot to to help keep the swimmers cool, just as they are sucked up in cold weather.

A field of 12 so far. Not bad.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/212227/exaggerator-gallops-belmont-field-grows

Exaggerator drew wide (11 or 13). Think he can overcome that wide PP?

Trainer sounds like he’s not thrilled… the jock sounds like it isn’t an issue…

Hope my original post wasn’t a bad dream. Geez louise, got to wonder about connections who did not have a clue that their horse was a ridgling. Hello, check with a veterinarian recently? Get a bill for the cut? Talking about sudden breaking news.

[QUOTE=Where’sMyWhite;8695434]
Exaggerator drew wide (11 or 13). Think he can overcome that wide PP?

Trainer sounds like he’s not thrilled… the jock sounds like it isn’t an issue…[/QUOTE]

It’s a mile and half race on the biggest racecourse, the Big Sandy, in the country with only 13 starters. IMO post position is of little concern and rarely comes into play.

Plenty of room and lots of time for legit early speed to die and back up. If Ex comes up short it won’t be because of the post position.

According to this link no horse has won out of position 13. Not my favorite number either.

You all be the judge.

http://www.belmont-stakes.info/postposition

Interesting ML. Dallas Stewart is taking a page out of crooked Michael Gill ’ s playbook. Overwhelm the opposition by out numbering the field. His strategy is probably to get all three to the lead, slow the pace, and block the field to the rail. Just kidding. At 30-1, no strategy seems plausible.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/teresagenaro/2016/06/08/belmont-stakes-2016-post-positions-and-morning-line-odds/#4bf3ae1f37ee

[QUOTE=Shammy Davis;8695827]
According to this link no horse has won out of position 13. Not my favorite number either.

You all be the judge.

http://www.belmont-stakes.info/postposition

Interesting ML. Dallas Stewart is taking a page out of crooked Michael Gill ’ s playbook. Overwhelm the opposition by out numbering the field. His strategy is probably to get all three to the lead, slow the pace, and block the field to the rail. Just kidding. At 30-1, no strategy seems plausible.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/teresagenaro/2016/06/08/belmont-stakes-2016-post-positions-and-morning-line-odds/#4bf3ae1f37ee[/QUOTE]

That’s probably because the average number of starter historically has been 10 or less. Guesstimating by a random check of the charts.

I would bet there have only been a handful of runnings at best when there have been 13+ horses going in the gate. So considering it has been run 146 times IMO a rather insignificant static.