Yes and the horse was not overly successful over the in UK.
What do you find bizarre?
Im not sure which horse. I think Riot Gear?
Your opinion isnât worth nothing, your opinion is valid and appreciated 
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Same! Obviously, a decision was made by the rider to use this setup, and I really wish we could know more about why this decision was made.
I am pretty much a sub-Smurf, riding-wise, but I guess I fall into the camp that I hope there is a happy medium between âevery horse in a snaffleâ versus âany bit goes.â I have an open mind if I can better understand the reasoning, and why it isnât as harsh as it seems from an outsiderâs perspective.
I have an old British Barbara Woodhouse pony book, and she says to her intended young reader that âwe should all be pelham fans,â and once a pelham (with the ideal of the rider having âlight handsâ) was much more standard, especially when kids rode ponies out of the ring more often than they do today. (I ride in a snaffle btw.) But I think itâs only natural when we see more and more eccentric setups, people have questions.
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Eliza Wallace has already addressed this set up for Renkum Corsair in her many very open social media posts. It was suggested to her by Lucinda Green for this particular horse.
There is one poster in particular on these forums that is always a very vocal critic of her biting choices. I have noticed a trend for this person to always question her tack choices and her riding at almost every high level event, no matter what horse she is on, in every discussion.
I find it very distasteful.
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Iâd play devils advocate that just because Lucinda suggested it doesnât make it ok.
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Did anyone else think that Woods should have been pulled up XC for dangerous riding. That horse is going to hit the deck at some point if it keeps blind running like that.
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we were standing and able to see fences 9-10abc and it was quite scary to watch him through that bit for sure.
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Yes. He was yellow carded also, so at least thereâs that.
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Buck Davidson⊠CarlevoâŠyellow warning cardâŠabuse of horseâŠblood on horseâŠsevere bit rubs both sides of mouth
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glad to hear that at least.
I donât want to see him or the horse on the âWTF are we doingâ thread, and based on what I saw, that is a real possibility if they continue on the same way.
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I am just now watchingâŠat the fence 15abc this smurf says they should have been stopped. One hour 30 seconds into the replay.
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I just canât get over things like this. To me, these incidents at this level represent serious errors in judgement and I find it hard to trust a riderâs judgement afterwards (on tack or other issues), even if they apologizeâŠ
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@brindille That doesnât seem entirely fair, honestly. Every event Iâve seen her at after, her horses were in much better condition at the end and she obviously learned from it. Sometimes you make mistakes, sometimes those mistakes are big ones. And no one but her has any clue what was going through her mind when that happened.
I made the mistake of asking my horse, who wasnât particularly wanting to do XC that day, to do our XC round at a trials a few weeks back. She had given me no other indication but a reluctance to come out of her stall that she wasnât feeling it, and sheâs normally a fit machine that never gets tired. And it was only Starter, first one in like 7 years. I ignored what she was trying to tell me because i just didnt know and she felt fine once we started besides a bobble not wanting to go down a slope, and she rightfully dumped me many strides out before a jump she didnât like in schooling the day before. It was a dumb mistake. I learned from it. But Iâm sure there were people there judging me, and people on here might too. I say kudos to her for putting her head down and trying to do better. Iâm sure she will make more mistakes, but as long as she keeps trying to fix them I see no reason to hate on her.
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And then there will be those that castigate her for it forever more.
I watched Elizaâs ride on Johnny at Badminton live, on the Livestream. I saw a rider so close to finishing, trying to nurse home a flagging horse. Should she have pulled up? Clearly. Was she thinking clearly at the end of a long course that she had fought so hard to have the opportunity to do? Was a mistake made? Yes. But the rider acknowledged her error, made an apology to all parties including her horse. And has never repeated it
And here it is being trotted out again, to be rehashed 5+ years later.
I really donât understand the ferocity with which some people want to pull her apart.
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Decades ago, there was a horse I loved riding. Happened to be an ottb. The owner stopped letting anybody event him because he was unridable xc. The horse didnât go in anything but a snaffle, because the owner didnât want his mouth torn up. The owner let me take him to an event, because I got along with the horse, and the owner reluctantly let me run him in a double twisted wire, because the owner trusted me. The horse was a peach and happily galloped around xc on a lose rein, much to the surprise of the owner. My point: Iâm not going to judge anyoneâs bit choices unless I see hands abusing a harsh bit (or any bit).
And for what itâs worth, you can watch EWâs helmet cam ride of the 3 star at Maryland. The horse pretty much went the whole way with his ears pricked.
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Thank you for this!
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Agreed. Look at any number of jump photos of BNRs, and cantles are literally levitating off their backs as they take off. The undying commitment to a sponsor who canât fit a saddle for crap is obviously more important than their horsesâ backs.
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Funny that itâs always the same few riders that are treated like this on here.
There was much admiration for Harry Meade on this thread earlier yet I can clearly remember him pushing an exhausted horse at Burghley, to the point it could no longer jump and ended up stuck in a fence needing help to be extricated. He was red carded and not allowed to compete on his 2nd horse later on the competition.
I donât think thereâs many 5* riders who havenât made a very bad mistake somewhere along the line, even if not on full view of a 5* audience.
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Is there any news coverage about buck davidsonâs yellow warning card?! I didnât even know that happened!
https://inside.fei.org/system/files/Updated%202022%20-%20List%20of%20Eventing%20Warnings_0.xlsx
Here is the current list of warnings and cards given.
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