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I did! I would have taken pictures had I only known. The videos get taken down shortly after being sold.

I went through my texts to see if I saved a picture, I did find the geldings prior video page and what I believe was his auction number. This is the closest I could get! This was 2/28/23.

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My BFF slugs through a lot of these videos like a total trooper. :joy:

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Oh, I love me a skilled troll when they’re trolling on the side of good.

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:sleepy: “Video Unavailable”
But it sure puts a light on Pussmuffin’s idea of the value of a horse & how it might increase. If only on Planet Bertheau :unamused:
@Kinda_Kooky May I drop the Bowie Kill Pen tidbit on the FB Stop page?

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Absolutely! I am pretty certain that was his auction number, I sent that video to my friend as I knew she would love his markings.

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Post is “pending” but s/b visible soon.
Tell your friend if she doesn’t mind doing some rehab, that horse s/b available soon.
& NOT for anywhere near that PieInTheSky $30K asking price.

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I’m so glad to see a troll found him. I had been dreaming that some sort of Nigerian prince would send an inquiry, maybe demand he send a check etc. He seems ignorant or more likely arrogant about such scams.

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:rofl:

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So
 FB page poster claims Falcon sold off Craigslist for $3K.
Possibly Bowie buyer resold for profit to Pussmuffin?
& Now the douche thinks he can resell for 10X purchase?
I can hardly wait for the denoument :expressionless:

ETA:
Just submitted a 2nd Request to Buy
Offered $1ea & listed as my Intent:
stop blatant abuse
Under Offer of car/RE:
your care & use has dropped value to meat price

C’mon COTH!
FLOOD his form with :ox::poop:offers!

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So he was in the kill pen before cereal bought him and put him through hell?

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As is Pete’s constantly raised tail. That is NOT normal.

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Wait 
 didn’t a previous owner make some public comments? A woman who said who said that Knucklehead told her he had a long preparation time for this ride. She didn’t know that meant 3 weeks or so. Something like that.

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For either that version of the story, or the killpen version, just because someone posts it on sm as if it were a fact doesn’t make it true.

For me to give the killpen any credibility there must be pics or video. Even if the original display doesn’t stay up. If someone didn’t capture it at the time, as far as I’m concerned that’s a typical excuse why someone doesn’t have evidence.

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$12-1600 is not meat price.
I’m thinking Falcon was part of the lot of TWHs @Kinda_Kooky saw on the Bowie site.
Horses can be sold at an auction that has a kill pen & not be sold from the kill pen.

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Falcon was purchased off of Craig’s list for $3K. The lady was asking $4K and she trailered him to Cereal.

He told the seller what he plans were and told her he was going to train for a year and do it in 2024. She has expressed that she regrets selling him to Cereal. This is all second hand info from the Falcon Express pot stirrers. And can be found buried deep in comment sections of SM accounts and posts. It can also also be found on his IG and TT account. (he purchasing and trying horses in Jan/Feb/March of this year)

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So she never says where she got Falcon?
I cast no shade on her if she got him from Bowie, then doubled her $$ selling to pussmuffin.
Outing his BS about his supposed training plan is fine.
Judging by the outcome, maybe his original intent was to train for a year :unamused:
Maybe he didn’t voluntarily leave his job aka Terminated :face_with_hand_over_mouth:
And that pushed up the Quest Start Date?
We’ve plenty proof how abysmal his planning skills are :confused:

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I did see the horse, but of course don’t have a picture of him. Dang it.

The Bowie website has ship dates for slaughter even on the horses that are a couple grand. There is a monthly sale that has a catalog and also an O’Dwyer horses page. The latter has horses being uploaded constantly with buy now prices. That is how I got my latest horse.

The horse I bought was 9537, the TWH was 9515. I was looking quite frequently at the page at the time. Admittedly, I still do. It’s a bad habit. :slightly_smiling_face:

It doesn’t matter whether or not anyone believes me. I definitely saw him. Horse traders buy from Bowie all the time, so perhaps that’s how he got to where he is now.

I sent him to my friend because she would buy a horse like him if he did not gait. And also, in case she knew someone look for a cool colored one.

Ultimately it’s irrelevant, but I am positive I watched a video of that horse. He was still available for purchase 2/28/23. I just don’t forget horse faces. People faces, sure. :laughing:

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I am not doubting you. We don’t know anything about him prior to the Craig’s list ad.

There is a lot of speculating regardless.

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Nothing to do with Falcon. Just a quick fact check. If a killpen posts “ship dates”, it rarely means “to slaughter”. It means to another sale barn, or just elsewhere in the marketplace.

Especially in TX/LA this is how the killpens work. Most are not really “kill” pens. They use that term becuase it spurs kind-hearted people to buy. They are sale pens that need new horses to keep buyers interested. Horses that don’t sell by a certain time are sent to another sales operation to make room for new horses.

It’s a cycle for the horses who go from sale pen to sale pen, until someone buys them out of that realm. They are advertised for sale online and also sometimes run through auction pens (that may or may not have killbuyers).

The whole process of how horses actually end up on trucks to slaughter is murky and not well understood by the public. In large part because the industry does not want us to understand. But if you search there is a lot of information out there about how killpens and slaughter shippers really work.

I will say that Kaufman’s sale barn does ship both to other markets and to slaughter. It is a pick-up point for genuine slaughter shippers because Kaufman’s has the facility size to do a large volume business and can fill a truck. The management knows how to sort out slaughter-qualified horses to make a group for a truck. They have USDA inspectors on site regularly.

That is what shippers want, a good many slaughter-qualified horses available in a short span of time. Usually more than will be available in one sale pen (killpen). Not all horses in a sale pen (killpen) will be slaughter-qualified per the USDA, which must approve them first.

I am not saying that horses in any sale pen / killpen might not end up on a slaughter truck. It definitely happens. Just not nearly as much as these sales operations want buyers to think.

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It really does not matter how he obtained the horses. I think that if he bought Falcon from a kill-pen he’d milk it–rescued from the killers, restored through his meticulous horsemanship to his previous glory and so on. He pimp the buzz words.

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The Shipshewana auction’s kill pen really is.
Injured & aged stock get consigned there.
They may look in decent health, but trust me when I tell you there’s a hole somewhere for the horse to be in that pen.
I’ve seen injuries that could/should be treateable & sickened me, so I go nowhere near that part of the auction barn on the very rare occasion I’m there.
Truth: it hurts my heart to see even the healthy stock in the open auction.
I admit I’m a soft touch, only going at all when I’m with friends who want to check out what will be sold & usually wait for them outside at the flea market.

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Yes, I agree with you, I am pretty familiar with the process. As you mentioned many get picked up and resold, some ship to slaughter.

I personally like the variety and see plenty of nice horses go through for very reasonable prices. Sadly, there are heart breaking cases as well.

I said slaughter ship date as those are the terms the website uses. One is given for every horse though plenty are bought prior and some stay longer.

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