350 days-no bag? UPDATE post 83

But what defines “over their foaling date”? 340 days? That’s not even where many mares foal - that’s over 370 days.

The article (opinion?) even says “Mares often have prolonged pregnancies that have exceeded 365 days.” - but as per above, more mares than not go over 370 days.

I’m not sure what “over their foaling date” means exactly. The point I was trying (not well) to purvey was that if the pasture is indeed infected, it could be beneficial to remover her from it even at this late gestation.

Yes, that is a good point, sorry I missed it :slight_smile:

Thanks for posting that link can’t re! The vet that was out today mentioned that the repo vet was out with a back injury, so I think I might call her tomorrow and ask how she is doing, and see what she says. She loves my mare and is very excited to see the foal. She even gave me her personal cell number so I might as well use it!!

This vet out today did not mean that domperidone=plasma transfusion, just meant that if the domperidone caused her to leak all her colostrum that it has to be replaced, and even that may not be as good as mommas, and then a plasma transfusion MAY be needed. Trying to say that I really don’t want to have to go there, and obviously I do not!

But we will see tomorrow what repo vet says about the domperidone and taking her off grass just to see. Her buddy would not mind stall rest and I think they will behave better stalled than in ring. Thanks of all the great advice! Love cothers! Thanks for putting up with this noob!

well yes, things can go badly even with supplemental colostrum, but if you buy it from a reputable place, such as Rood & Riddle, and get it in first thing, it’s highly, highly unlikely you’ll have to resort to plasma. Even then, if you do, it’s most likely to be a problem with the foal’s inability to absorb, as opposed to the colostrum.

Fingers crossed for you!! :slight_smile:

Obviously if colostrum is needed, I will get it at any cost, any thoughts on how much colostrum costs? Do you need a prescription or anything? Ha, sounds silly but I have never thought about it before recently!

Unless there’s some place near enough you could easily drive to and pick it up if you do need it, and I’m talking within an hour or so, then you want to order it and have it just in case. You don’t need a prescription, at least not to get it from R&R - just call (I don’t have the number, shouldn’t be hard to find) and tell them you want a pint. It will be in the range of $150 or so, that might have been just for it and then you pay the overnight FedEx delivery. There might be cheaper places.

Ok, the head vet of the practice heard about my girl because I called the office asking about colostrum. He called me and said he wants her on domperidone, STAT! So I had to go to his house and get it so she gets her first dose tonight. He said it would not cause her to leak colostrum, and that it was made for mares on fescue. Asked when her last preg check was, etc…

I talked to the repo vet this afternoon and she suggested starting the domperidone, and having colostrum just in case. So I guess we will see. She is 354 days in the morning.

Please understand this isn’t about leaking colostrum *. It’s a simple fact that domperidone decreases the IgG levels of the mare’s colostrum, so I would do as you are and just have the colostrum there regardless.

  • it can cause them to stream milk, and if that happens, ask about halving the dose.

Have you taken her off the fescue?

MPS…I would get the head vet or the repro vet to do a preg check asap. Sounds like the other vet is not at all familiar with repro work, and the photos of your mare and her bag look suspiciously like she is not in foal. It has happened to the best of us, believe me!
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I have taken her off grass, she was stalled yesterday and I am going to try putting her and her buddy in the ring today. Repo vet will be out monday, she said she would be glad to palpate her to be sure. She was certain she felt him move while feeling her belly on the march 5 appt but did not palpate then. She said if she had aborted since then, usually the abortion triggers labor and she would have foaled a dead baby. Oh dear. Not a reassuring conversation. Can someone pass the ulcergaurd?

Well, it sounds like you are doing what you can. I will keep you in my prayers. Having the repo vet out on Monday is a great idea.

Did you order the colostrum? You should really get that done so you have it on hand.

Best of luck.

If your mare is on domperidone, you need to be aware of the real risk of premature lactation and failure of passive transfer. Those who are advising having a good supply of colostrum on hand are correct. If this were my mare, I’d have the colostrum in the freezer and would ask my vet to give it by tube to the foal as soon as it is born. That will be your best bet to avoid needing plasma. Good luck!

This article covers the risks.

http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?id=24019

Head vet just palpated her. She’s open. So disappointed.

I’m so, so sorry!

So sorry to hear :frowning:

Oh no. So sorry.

I’m so incredibly sad. Vet said she probably lost it between the 30 day check and 60 days. I never noticed anything amiss. He said past a certain point they produce a hormone and do not come back into heat for the season. I do have a LFG, but it is from a stallion owner that is unlikely to honor it, so I don’t know if I will try again, especially since I don’t know what caused her to loose this one. Not willing to flush a bunch more money and I am sure DH will not either. This so totally sucks. Time for miss fatty to start her diet. Halfway surprised she hasn’t foundered if she’s not in foal. Damn it.

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I’m so incredibly sad. Vet said she probably lost it between the 30 day check and 60 days. I never noticed anything amiss. He said past a certain point they produce a hormone and do not come back into heat for the season. I do have a LFG, but it is from a stallion owner that is unlikely to honor it, so I don’t know if I will try again, especially since I don’t know what caused her to loose this one. Not willing to flush a bunch more money and I am sure DH will not either. This so totally sucks. Time for miss fatty to start her diet. Halfway surprised she hasn’t foundered if she’s not in foal. Damn it.[/QUOTE]
I know how disappointed you are, breeding can really be difficult sometimes. Just know you are in good company, lots of us have lost a foal. There is not always a good answer either. Maybe after your emotions settle a little, you can decide what you want to do. Did the vet make any suggestions? Is the mare currently having a heat cycle? Has this mare ever foaled before?