$500 just to look? WTF?

Since they have an Argentinian rider, perhaps they should ad a bubble and put words in the horse’s mouth??? Can’t resist:lol:

Whole flock of fruitbats out tonite. I’ll check back with some popcorn and er…muscle relaxants;)

But really folks, this is hilarious and I’m getting a bruise on my chin from my jaw dropping to the floor.

What the hell is a listserv?

I really love the classy representation of the WoodlandsX pony. It’s either lame or having one heck of a time being chased around through the manure pile and around the stock tank. :eek:

Windows Live Local usually has the best satellite pics. They don’t have the super birds-eye imagery for this particular site, but they are better than Google Earth.

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=37.83416~-77.770558&style=h&lvl=17&scene=1792833

Generally, it’s a email group to which you belong where any message you send goes to the whole group. Similar to Yahoo Groups… also kind of like a newsgroup.

That won’t work either, can’t you read!!:smiley:

All farm visits are scheduled and confirmed sales appointments. The main sales facility is also our home. The property is gated and access is by passcode. If you do not have a confirmed appointment, you will not be able to pass through the gate. We’re sorry to say that if you come to the farm without an appointment, you will be asked to schedule an appointment and be turned away until the time of that appointment.

It’s a program used to run a email based mailing list. For example: Equine-L.

http://www.lsoft.com/

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Sounds like a certain farm in TX, guarded by men in black suits…:smiley:
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Much better then what I got on Google Earth…thanks.

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Wow. Do they even WANT to sell these horses? There’s no effing way that regular horsepeople would fall for this load of manure.

What was that famous P.T. Barnum quote? Um…oh yeah, “A Sucker is Born Every Minute.” :lol:

My veterinarian had a customer who did just this (she didn’t mention a name). The customer was informed changing the coggins was a felony!
Don’t know if my vet is correct, but I sure wouldn’t mess with one!

Must be all those “professional riders” a.k.a. boarders who are not allowed to visit their horses without an appointment, or one of those “top Argentinian riders”. Maybe they’re atop cheap Argentinian saddles???

Did they have Eric Cartman write the web site stuff?

The horses look like very average quality draft crosses and kid’s horses for the most part.

I LOVE the ‘grand prix jumper’ one.

I think the ad is very, very strange, especially the incredibly involved discussions and caveats. In 40 years, I’ve never heard of anyone charging 500 dollars to visit a farm and try out horses. Nor have I ever heard of a farm needing to schedule a time during business hours so the have a rider ‘there’, not when they have that number of horses. My concern would be that the horses aren’t getting worked or trained regularly, and that would decrease their value.

There are many contradictions in the ad, including:

If the word negotiation is one that you consider applicable to the purchase at hand, please look elsewhere.

and then later, statements about them negotiating horse prices. it gets better:

It is our opinion that there is considerably less reason to vet young prospects fresh from the farm…as compared to adult horses who have been in work… In addition, we have found over time that many buyers, particularly novices and or those who purchase less than 3-5 horses per year are not always able to interpret the results of a veterinary exam

and better:

They can either choose to have 2 horses vetted in the unlikely event that one does not pass the exam or pay a $500 restocking fee.

and better:

In addition, we reserve the right to no-sale a horse rather than offer the above allowance if we feel that the horse’s price or our profit/loss position does not warrant the above level of scrutiny

and better:

VSH will charge a holding/facilities charge of $45/hr/person for horses priced from $1,000-9,999. Our purchase agreement stipulates that you release any xrays or exam results to Virginia Sport Horses

and better:

If you can afford to vet the horse and ask us to put the additional time into the transaction, then you can afford to pay us full price…

from better to fascinating:

If you would like us to round up a group of young horses for a vet/selection process, we will do so free of charge for group purchases exceeding $10,000. For purchases that exceed $5,000 we will do so, but you will be billed in advance for salaries and expenses up to $350

and better:

we charge a $100 trailer loading surcharge for those who intend to pick-up their horses themselves. We will happily assist you for up to one person/hr (i.e., 1 person 1 hr = 2 people 1/2 hr ea). If your horse loads in less than 1/2 hour with one person’s assistance, this surcharge will be refunded… After 1 hour, we will be happy to arrange alternate shipping arrangements.

Particularly, while awaiting shipment, our horses are kept in a paddock with a run in shelter and so may have muddy legs…

but:

When payment is tendered for a horse, we will retreive that horse from pasture and place it in a stall. There it will stay until the shipper arrives. Stall board for horses awaiting shipment is $10/day. If you would like your horses feet trimmed during that time the charge is $85. If you would like the horse groomed on a daily basis, or prior to shipment, the charge is $35/session.

and the very complex:

Quite a lot of work goes into the logistics and administration of arranging transportation for any horse.

those evil customers:

we will not be taken advantage of by anyone who seeks nothing but a cheap horse at our expense

bitter past experiences with the obese housewife:

if you are a 40 year old woman returning to riding after having had children, now pushing 300lbs, and you evented as a 20 yr old, but not since, it is not really fair to take up more of our time in the sales process finding a trail/lesson horse for you that you hope will someday be your upper level event horse…

kindly offer:

If this concerns you, we are happy to provide a health inspection and certificate at your expense

buying a horse without their permission from the farm where it’s at before they get it:

you are stealing our listing and our work product… and…you are in for a rude awakening

We will block the shipment of your horse and you will be placed on a list of individuals that we ask our good suppliers not to do business with…we will also provide your name to our customers as a person of questionable integrity so as to assist them in avoiding being cheated on the purchase of a horse

i think it’s pretty likely that these are pmu horses that they buy in large lots. pmu ranches often are a nice way to get a nice, inexpensive horse, but since most of the pmu ranches, the big ones anyway, sell horses directly and don’t do any of this stuff and sell the horses for less…this is likely pretty much a NB. in fact, i actually saw a pmu ranch that sold direct and had far nicer quality horses than these, at much lower prices. camden, something like that?

I think I found a photo of the VSH “pro” rider…

http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad105398

Where did y’all see the part about the rider being Argentinian? I must have missed it (as my eyes glazed over from slogging through all the legalese).

Gosh, maybe that extra $6K is the charge for looking at the horse on HER Web site!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I guess the better deal is the $500 in person. :wink:

WOW

My head hurts from having the WTF expression on my face for the past 10 minutes.
LOL yah me too…:eek:
There is almost too much wrong with them too list…it’s totally out of control. Who is buying these horses??? What kind of moron would pay 18 k for an appendix looking grade horse that looks and moves like that??? I honestly don’t get it. Someone should write them an email and recommend they visit this message board and GET A CLUE , although I suppose that would be inviting trouble. I would LOVE to just get inside these peoples minds for even five minits because I just cannot for the life of me even come close to comprehending any policy or price or “product” on their entire website.
Kyla

why is the horse 12,000 dollars less on a newer ad? i thought they reserved the right to ‘raise the price with training’, lol.

lol…

roflmao, that would make you WELL over 100 years old. that’s a whole lotta bull i’m bettin.

I had all but gotten my COTH addiction under control - I was doing so well - and now this thread has come along. My sick fascination with this bizarre sales site and my mirth at the responses of my fellow COTHers has plunged me back into the spiralling depths of computer abuse. I can’t stop coming back for more!

Thanks a lot, A.P.!

Edited to fix “sight/site”. Hasty typing, sorry!