$500 just to look? WTF?

[justdandy]

“We ask that you are REALISTIC about the intended use of the horse you purchase… The intended use should be something that you currently do or at least have done in the recent past… It should be the thing that you expect to do THE MOST with the horse… If you are buying a trail or lesson horse that you “would like to someday show or do dressage with”, then the stated use should be pleasure and you might note the occasional planned use to be dressage… For example… if you are a 40 year old woman returning to riding after having had children, now pushing 300lbs, and you evented as a 20 yr old, but not since, it is not really fair to take up more of our time in the sales process finding a trail/lesson horse for you that you hope will someday be your upper level event horse…”

Offend anyone much? I can understand wanting a potential buyer to be realistic, but was it really necessary to use a 300lb, 40-year old mother as an example? Really! So I guess if you are over a certain age/weight you’re not allowed to inquire with them?

[LovesHorses]

Those horses aren’t worth my $500.

[EponaRoan]

@Kinsella

Hello! ALL horses come with Coggins - even sales require them! And that all information tracing them to the ranch will be removed? Why? Are they stolen???

That’s because it’s a big secret where they came from. And if you find out, they’ll have to kill you.

See http://www.virginiasporthorses.com/product_info.php/cPath/55/products_id/292?osCsid=8a6819d75f6e6ebfd51db7539f15bdd8:

[B]"THEFT OF WORK PRODUCT AND BUSINESS INTERFERENCE

[/B].If you use information gleaned from our site to determine our sources and then attempt to purchase a horse that we have listed for sale from the farm so as to save a few pennies by cutting us out of the loop, you are stealing our listing and our work product… and…you are in for a rude awakening… Most large shipments of Canadian Sport Horses coming into the US are those that we are either commissioning or have placed the majority of horses on… [B]We will block the shipment of your horse and you will be placed on a list of individuals that we ask our good suppliers not to do business with…we will also provide your name to our customers as a person of questionable integrity so as to assist them in avoiding being cheated on the purchase of a horse."

:eek:

[/B]

[LessIsMore17]

Check out this horse http://virginiasporthorses.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_id/704

120 of professional training and they say he’s a Grand Prix Prospect:eek: Oh and you can have him for $18k

[justdandy]

“…if you are a 40 year old woman returning to riding after having had children, now pushing 300lbs, and you evented as a 20 yr old, but not since, it is not really fair to take up more of our time in the sales process finding a trail/lesson horse for you that you hope will someday be your upper level event horse…”

and

“Please do not bring back the “cute little foal” that you puchased because he reaches his ugly duckling yearling phase. What if your parents traded you in when you were a pimple faced middle schooler with braces?”

It just keeps getting better!!!:rolleyes:

[arabhorse2]

I had to quit reading their website… I swear, these people are totally insane!!! :eek:

[Phaxxton]

Our horses live outside on pasture 24 x 7, 12 months out of the year. This is quite common in Virginia. Summer pictures will show horses fat on our rich pastures with sleek, shiny coats, often freshly bathed. Winter conditions are quite different. Horses living out develop thick winter coats and generally are not bathed, unless they are in training and living in the barn… Particularly, while awaiting shipment, our horses are kept in a paddock with a run in shelter and so may have muddy legs… If kept off pasture for an extended period of time due to shipping delays they may lose weight or not look their best at shipment time… For that reason we have developed the following policy:

[INDENT]When payment is tendered for a horse, we will retreive that horse from pasture and place it in a stall. There it will stay until the shipper arrives. Stall board for horses awaiting shipment is $10/day. If you would like your horses feet trimmed during that time the charge is $85. If you would like the horse groomed on a daily basis, or prior to shipment, the charge is $35/session.[/INDENT]
If you waive the above services, then please do not compain about the “condition” that your horse arrived in. While many sellers of horses include these services at no charge, these services are not reflected in the sale price of our horses. Our horses are priced such that customers may choose whether or not they want to “pay” for services.

Where’s the fruitbat!!! :eek: Uhhhh… how about FEED the horse while it’s awaiting shipment – You know, like - uh, gee, I don’t know - hay?!

[summerhorse]

That’s exactly what they probably are (most of them). WAY too many draft crosses of uh, questionable “quality” (as defined by sport horse world), coming from Canada, ranch name removed from Coggins? Maybe this is a way for the PMU farms to launder their horses so they aren’t breaking Wyeth’s “rules” about no selling to rescues?

$1,500 is a rescue horse??? LOL the world is full of horses $1,500 and under that are just regular old horses in need of no rescue at all. Never heard rescue defined as a price!

All I can say is that these people are odd and I’d never deal with any seller ofa “product” (!!) that had so many rules, stipulations and FEES. it is like going to Macy’s or a Car lot and they say sorry, you have a cover charge of $100, it may be applied to your purchase. Crazy!

[FoxChaser]

Besides the obvious talk of sending horses to the killers (they will be happy to liquidate your horse too!) and the $500 fee to see the horses, commit to buy before getting a PPE, etc. it also makes me crazy that the horses are all listed as “products”. Who ARE these people?!!!

[justdandy]

@arabhorse2

I had to quit reading their website… I swear, these people are totally insane!!! :eek:

Yep…I just closed out of it myself!! Can’t take anymore!!!

My head hurts from having the WTF expression on my face for the past 10 minutes.

[luvmytbs]

And $18,000 for a TB/QH cross? with 3 mos training. Are you kidding me?

http://virginiasporthorses.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_id/704

[LessIsMore17]

These people are scary:eek: Here is a PercheronX - Prix St. George Level Dressage Prospect - you’ve got to watch the video- the horse doesn’t even track up:(

http://virginiasporthorses.com/product_info.php/products_id/135

Any of these horses coming from this place are rescues:no: This is sad.

[summerhorse]

@Kinsella

OK, I am reading that page and thinking SERIOUS Scam Artists here… The fact that this is in there just scares the hell out of me!

Hello! ALL horses come with Coggins - even sales require them! And that all information tracing them to the ranch will be removed? Why? Are they stolen???

Because PMU ranches aren’t supposed to sell to rescues (and they don’t want anyone to THINK this is a coughrescuecough) and they don’t want anyone to know where they are or who they are (I guess so they don’t have PETA land on their door). It is pretty common with the PMU horses actually.

This is just a horse “trader” (someone who buys and sells horses for all uses, i.e. including slaughter) trying to fancy it up and gouge people out of money. hard to imagine anyone falling for that anyway but there is one born every day (apparently two!)

[Phaxxton]

If the horse you purchase does not suit your purpose, it can be returned to VSH. We will make every effort to resell your horse on a consignment basis. You will be responsible for return shipping, and all board and other expenses from the time the horse arrives back at VSH until the time of it’s resale. Under no circumstances will we be “screamed down” on a horse that you prefer to keep… Sadly, this is not a new behavior… and we would prefer that the horse is returned safely for consignment resale… What would you think of us if we demanded more money for a horse after its arrival???

What the heck does this mean???

[moonriverfarm]

Help me please. I just sent them another comment. I cant find enough zanex to stop myself.

[DocHF]

the breeding really suggests PMU. I doubt they need to go through an auction- likely they’ve taken a tour around saskatchewan and are marketing the horses for the various farms they made deals with. Economic times are very hard for horse breeders inthe canadian prairies right now, what with downsizing of PMU contracts and ncreasing fuel prices. They sell over 1000 horses a year. This is kind of like a horsey walmart on line.

[Phaxxton]

We ask that you are REALISTIC about the intended use of the horse you purchase… The intended use should be something that you currently do or at least have done in the recent past… It should be the thing that you expect to do THE MOST with the horse… If you are buying a trail or lesson horse that you “would like to someday show or do dressage with”, then the stated use should be pleasure and you might note the occasional planned use to be dressage…
For example… if you are a 40 year old woman returning to riding after having had children, now pushing 300lbs, and you evented as a 20 yr old, but not since, it is not really fair to take up more of our time in the sales process finding a trail/lesson horse for you that you hope will someday be your upper level event horse…

OMG, I’m DYING!

[DocHF]

I think the 'screamed down" comment comes from having to deal with customers who are unhappy when the horse they bought sight unseen and unvetted for $1000 from an online site, arrives with lice, fleas and shipping fever ( they admit these are common occurrences with their stock!!!) and maybe only 3 serviceable legs, and the customer wants a price reduction. instead, they’ll take the horse back, charge ytou $10/day board for the months until they resell it and another 550 for shipping back to them as well.

[ChocoMare]

@justdandy

“…if you are a 40 year old woman returning to riding after having had children, now pushing 300lbs, and you evented as a 20 yr old, but not since, it is not really fair to take up more of our time in the sales process finding a trail/lesson horse for you that you hope will someday be your upper level event horse…”

Oh that’s rich. :o :mad:

Unfortunately, I’ve heard of VSS before. I just never took the time to read their site. Oy vey! :rolleyes:

Sniff, sniff, sniff…yup, something smells very fishy. :uhoh:

[Phaxxton]

We ask that you are REALISTIC about the intended use of the horse you purchase… The intended use should be something that you currently do or at least have done in the recent past… It should be the thing that you expect to do THE MOST with the horse… If you are buying a trail or lesson horse that you “would like to someday show or do dressage with”, then the stated use should be pleasure and you might note the occasional planned use to be dressage…
For example… if you are a 40 year old woman returning to riding after having had children, now pushing 300lbs, and you evented as a 20 yr old, but not since, it is not really fair to take up more of our time in the sales process finding a trail/lesson horse for you that you hope will someday be your upper level event horse…

OMG, I’m DYING!