WTD = White Trash Dressage. :winkgrin:
I am a lawyer, and no I won’t be able to take that particular case. In fairness, though, I alwo won’t take the VSH case for ‘tortuios interference.’ Or did she mean ‘tortuous?’ :lol: Whatever it was, J Swan grievously misspelled it.
White Trash Dressage! It’s all the rage you know! 
I must have missed something here–what’s wrong with an outhouse?
I’m still trying to figure out anything I said so inflammatory that I was called out by not one but TWO trolls. :lol: Usually people don’t even notice me.
Y’think it was letting people on to the correct pronunciation of Bumpass?
I wanna sue for that, too. Even if I cannot spell it or pronunciate it, I wanna sue for it.
I wanna sue for that, too. Even if I cannot spell it or pronunciate it, I wanna sue for it.
I wanna sue for that, too. Even if I cannot spell it or pronunciate it, I wanna sue for it. Cuz if it is good enough for VSH to sue for, then its good enough for us, too.
Once again zipping up my flame suit and holding the extingiusher.
So those of you saying her policy is fine would send $500 that is non refundable before even setting foot on the property, pay thousands of dollars for a halter broke cross bred, pay the seller to load the horse on your trailer, forgo vetting and here is the best one. Recieve an altered government document (the coggins).
I guess the rest of us are doing the wrong thing.
Hey BelladonnaLily…are you from Bumpass?
WOW :eek: !
It just took me over an hour to speed read the what I’ve missed since I’ve been ahem AT THE BARN ALL DAY! Oh…there’s just so much more I want to say but I won’t feed the troll.
Point being as most others on here have stated is that it is neither slander nor libel if we are stating our opinions of information she herself has posted on her website. I stand behind my original comments.
Anyway, think I’ll sneak that smoke in and grab a bourbon for this one! Anyone grab the party mix?
Very late on this thread, and I have not read most of the 33? pages, but it seems like this farm is trying to run a business of selling PMU horses? Selling high numbers at low proffit? If that is correct, I can understand why they would really not have the time for tire kickers, and only want to take time to show horses to someone that has totally committed to purchasing this type of horse, and they believe they have the variety to meet what the buyer is looking for - justifying a $500. deposit. Selling horses is very time consuming. MANY PMU foals are purchased sight unseen for $$, as well as Canter horses, so I can’t see how this type of policy is so different. We also in this day and age, are quite comfortable with sending chunks of money to purchase something from an ebay seller with a screen name on just the anonymous feedback on their profile.
As for the vetting. There are buyers that are comfortable buying low cost horses without vetting, and buyers that are not. Stating that they don’t want to be put thru the whole vetting process for a non-committed buyer is another choice in a high volume sales business.
Sometimes you have to know what you can and can’t realistically do with your 24 hours in a day, and to me, finding a way to run a business while placing PMU horses in homes can’t be a bad thing, but like I said, I have not read all the objections ?? here.
BTW, I was told by a Curly breeder that they do try to cross with Warmbloods, and IF they get the curly coat, they will be hypo-allergenic.
YOU GUYS ARE NOT PLAYING FAIR. Horse_Poor alerted me to the thread (as a zealous defender of all things WTD), and it took me almost an HOUR to go through it, and more pages kept appearing…It is now almost 10 PM on Sunday evening and all I came into lab for was to set up a culture…I haven’t had dinner…
I can’t believe there was such a fabulous train wreck (CONGRATS, A.P.!!! :D) and I didn’t help derail. I am devastated, I tell you.
And I am going to give up being the cheap $10 phone psychic. Apparently I can become a horse dealer. Is this like the real estate stuff - you don’t need to put money down, then you turn around and sell the house at a terrific profit? Does this woman run an informercial on late night TV? Why, oh why, did I do science and not business or economics?
And what is wrong with an outhouse? For that matter, what’s wrong with peeing in your horse’s stall? And what is wrong with a 200 lb rerider in spandex, preferably purple, with sequins?
I also agree: Liz Booth, banned forever from WTD. Really. We must have some standards.
my refresh botton is getting worn out 
HEY!!!
~ I possess at least 20 IQ pts! That is appreciably more then someone who is unable to understand the concept of derision toward an individual who is not enlightened enough to use sarcasm properly…
Yet I am still looking for that dead cactus…
Does anyone think that website is a joke? It is just too snarky and stupid to really believe. Is someone just jerking chains?
I just read this thread and it looks to me like those people are smoking crack !!
They will never sell anything that way. Sounds like a scam to me.
I doubt it’s a scam…
But if you read their policies - they ARE condescending and insulting.
I can get that from local sales barns without forking over $500/non-refundable.
Late to the train wreck as usual.
Damn. Taking care of those pesky horses takes me away from the computer and I miss so much stuff.
J Swan,
I’ll bet my bar association dues that you are not an attorney. You are throwing terms (e.g. free speech, tortuous (I can’t misspell it the way you did. The letters just won’t roll off the fingers) interefence with business interests) around without knowing what you are talking about. You may think it makes you sound knowledgeable and important. Sadly, it makes you sound just the opposite to people who know the legal definition of the terms you are using incorrectly.
You have just demonstrated how someone can look foolish without any third party help. It’s sooooo easy, isn’t it? VSH didn’t need our attention to look silly; the website was already doing it.
Opinions are like, er, bellybuttons. Everyone has one. It appears that 99% of the posters on this thread are of the opinion that VSH business policies are exotic, unusual, and walking close to the line of questionable (i.e., the coggins issue, for one). ALL of these are opinions and, VSH, by availing itself of the Internet as a method of advertising, has left itself open to critique OF WHAT IT HAS PUT ON A PUBLIC ARENA.
If X is correct and VSH is purely a wholesaler and not a retailer, then this puts a different light on it. But, IF this is true, then:
- Why hasn’t anyone connected with the farm or website said so?
- Why does the website offer individual horses at individual prices and have testimonials from individual buyers?
X, you make some valid points, but their relevance to this situation is doubtful. You are hypothesizing an analogy between your business and VSH’s when no one from VSH has made these points. Even if VSH is a wholesaler at times, in this capacity it seems to be acting as a retailer. IMO, when acting as a retailer VSH can expect to be compared to other businesses which sell horses to indiviual buyers. And, as such, it is fair to discuss its business practices (i.e. liquidating its ‘product’ for $300) in the context of private horse sales.
J Swan,
If the critiques were positive, praising the farm, the conditions of sale and the “product”, would you be here, upset that we were paying VSH too much attention? If we were bringing the owner so much business that she couldn’t handle it and she was on the verge of a nervous breakdown, would you demand that we stop lauding her fine farm because we were endangering her health?
I thought so.
You don’t get to pick and choose what kind of attention she gets. Neither does she.
BTW, I noticed that VSH is selling what is represented to be a purebred Haflinger, and not a Haflinger cross. It had a lovely soft mane that lay perfectly over to the right, flat against its neck. IMHO a purebred Haflinger’s mane would have great difficulty lying over as nicely as this horse’s does.
If anyone reading this is interested in this horse, I would recommend that evidence of the horse’s status as a purebred is confirmed and that the buyer is given a guarantee that he is not buying a cross bred horse.
Again, this is JUST MY OPINION based based on what I have learned from my next door neighbor who raises Haflingers.
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