[QUOTE=Bluey;7902318]
I disagree in a fundamental way.
Where is any compromise to ban all animal use by humans?
There is NO compromise with animal rights extremists, no middle ground.
There are no two extremes at all, there is what all humans do, use the natural, renewable resource animals are for us and have been for millennia and then the handful of those with their own strange ideology of a different world than we live in, one where humans live in bubbles or, as one animal rights extremist poster here told us, where there are no humans in the world so no animal would be enslaved.
Many in animal agriculture have been lulled to think there would be something they could do to, in the case of laws and regulations, so animal rights extremists would agree to this or that change.
They agreed in many meetings, then when it came to a bill, it was all over, there was no compromise, those in agriculture felt lied to.
As for the diversion into the slaughter topic, all I will say is that those that are against slaughter are following animal rights extremist propaganda.
Why is that so?
Because slaughter is, again, one more way we use the natural, renewable resource animals are in our world and some horses may fit that process.
The slaughter process is inherently not good or bad, is extremely regulated and inspected.
Animal rights extremists have made slaughter one of their causes of the moment with their abuse card.
I don’t know any one professional in animal agriculture and in the horse industry that is against slaughter in itself, that would not make sense.
Everyone knows that, as in everything else, there are abuses and those no one wants, but slaughter itself is not the problem, mismanagement is.
If we think about it, there is abuse in every other place we care to look and we don’t try to ban it all, jumping, gaited, rodeo, racing, everyone has heard plenty every time someone was found to be abusive and punished, as they should.
I grew up where our riding school owner would be called by the slaughter plant manager and he would bring horses for us to train and retrain.
You can say that I was “saving” horses from slaughter long before many here were born.
Still, those horses that were there and no other job found for them were slaughtered.
The way they were handled and shot was in no way abusive, no different than the vet today giving them a shot, just that the horse could be then used one more time, it was not a toxic carcass as euthanized horses are.
As for people’s sick horse needing euthanizing, that is not the horses slaughter handles at all.
No one is insisting all horses be by law slaughtered, that would be an extreme.
No one is trying to pass those kinds of laws, so it is really absurd to see any other extremist here than the obvious animal rights extremists.
In the end, the side topic of slaughter was intended as a personal dig.
It was also a complete 101 logic fail to try to compare the rightness of participating by those caring for horses properly that also happen to know what the slaughter process is and how it fits in our world today, with someone that is blindly following animal rights extremists trying to eliminate all uses of animals by humans and that means horses also.[/QUOTE]
Just read the thread where a woman and her husband living in a dual residency home have their unknown neighbors maybe cheating on each other. The OP asked should she MYOB or tell…there were many of the usual Democrat posters screaming for blood…tell tell tell…and insteresting that the Republican posters…(those who have identified themselves as such) were of the MYOB camp.
Animals rights, anti slaughter, and pro HSUS and PETA tend to be from a same group who want to control people, and the way to go down that hill is to start with animals.
Read the thread on Euthanizsia gone bad…the horror stories but they ignore those realities or make them trivial however during a slaughter debate they will cry foul that the dead bolt is not 100% all of the time.
It is ALL about controlling others and what they do and what they own.
Now…why are THEY on a horse forum?