Only had a chance to skim read but will read and digest when I have time. A couple of horses on your short list of TB stallions caught my attention. Nobre being one. I bought and sold Gem Master to Argentina when he finished racing. I remember him being a very good looking horse, correct, full body, pleasing head, with a well-made hind end and nice disposition. Given Nobre’s family top and bottom its not surprising that he has gathered respect as sport horse sire. I have seen, had “my hands” on many of the horses going back 4 generations. The family should produce the “type”.
Fragonard who’s top line I know well again not surprising the gets the “type”. I came close to buying his dam sire Acatenango as agent when he came off the racecourse to stand in KY. A beautiful horse who recently died. He went on to be a champion sire in Germany as was his daddy.
Sea Lion’s sire Sea Salute was bred by the late great Paul Mellon, Rokeby Stables in Virginia a major patron of the turf for many, many years. I have a Pulpit mare that is out of a half-sister to Sea Salute’s momma Glowing Honor who is by Seattle Slew, the sire of my mare’s daddy Pulpit. My mare never raced, we have had some luck with what we have bred on the racecourse but we have several that are jumping fools. Lovely hoses by and large. I have a 5 year old that is drop dead gorgeous. I was offered $25,000 for him as a long yearling by my cheap ass well known H/J trainer. Sea Lion’s dam sire Caveat won the Belmont Stakes in the mid 80s, a 1 ½ mile race plenty of stamina there which he passed on. I know his owner for years. And saw many of his get. Another one that should get the “type”.
I could talk a bit about a few of the families you have listed. At least as far the horses, types, and their produce.
I only work with and breed TBs, mainly for flat racing. But my personal training and riding is for Steeplechase racing. Specifically Timber racing, which is uniquely “American”. 3-4 miles races over medium to high fences stoutly built. 18 to 22 in a race. You go over or you go down.[/QUOTE]
Do you know of TB stallions who would be good for sport and with a reasonable stud fee for it?