Abusive photos from a Tom Olive clinic, Ocala, FL

[SimplyAlice13]

[QUOTE=Cindyg;7772684]
Hey SimplyAlice13! No, you can’t post pictures here unless you purchase a premium membership. You can post them somewhere else, then link them here.

There’s a little more going on that you making that one thread private because TWO complete threads were REMOVED from Life with Oden – not just the videos and pictures, but the conversations.

Facebook did not communicate with me to tell me that they were removing the threads. They just disappeared. I have to assume Tom complained and caused that.

It’s so disturbing to hear that Misty is still swollen and raw. I assume that’s the 18YO Andalusian who was “trained” to “lie down”?

ETA: Don’t get involved with PETA![/QUOTE]

Yeah, that’s Misty. We believe that it is going to be permanent damage.

PETA contacted us, not really something we support, but if they would like to help, sure, go ahead. I don’t think my sister got into a actual in depth talk with them though.

I’ve got a thread going on my tumblr with a few pictures and the story. I’m not allowed to post any on my Facebook, as my mother has taken Tom’s side on this. I’ll make a new tumblr post tomorrow. There are literally hundreds of pictures, not one is flattering.

[CrowneDragon]

SimplyAlice, please talk to your sister regarding the messages I have sent her on Facebook. Following through on that will be more helpful than anything else. Thanks!

[inca]

SimplyAlice - bravo to you and your sister. I am so sorry to hear that your mother has taken Tom’s side. I can’t imagine why she would side with him after seeing those pictures! Please do tread VERY carefully with PETA. I think there are better avenues than PETA. I would strongly encourage you to connect with CrowneDragon and assist her since she has the attention of local authorities.

Again - good for you and your sister for starting the ball rolling and standing up for the horses the best way that you could.

[SimplyAlice13]

[QUOTE=CrowneDragon;7772725]
SimplyAlice, please talk to your sister regarding the messages I have sent her on Facebook. Following through on that will be more helpful than anything else. Thanks![/QUOTE]

She has received hundreds of messages and got a bit overwhelmed. I know she has assisted others get in contact with authorities. Perhaps send her a new message. if she didn’t reply to you, you may have gotten lost in the mess.

[CrowneDragon]

[QUOTE=SimplyAlice13;7773033]
She has received hundreds of messages and got a bit overwhelmed. I know she has assisted others get in contact with authorities. Perhaps send her a new message. if she didn’t reply to you, you may have gotten lost in the mess.[/QUOTE]

She has replied, I just want to make sure that she follows up on it. The gist is that those of us who weren’t there can’t do much; you guys who are eye witnesses are needed for the case to go anywhere. I will send you a PM here (look up top where it says “notifications”).

[trubandloki]

[QUOTE=goneriding24;7769552]
The whole thing is bad but notice all the sweat on his back. I know it’s FL but to sweat like that?? Scary looking, not sure why but it shows (in my opinion) he was really working this filly over.[/QUOTE]
Laugh. Strange generalization of not thinking outside your own little world box.
I live in NY and I sweat like that with out ever beating a horse.
Some people sweat more than others.
Sweat does not equal anything more than just that, sweat.

@Appsolute;7764714

http://33.media.tumblr.com/603f81ec28dd596d84aee0ca53fa7950/tumblr_nbyrgfqoji1tup3ulo3_1280.jpg

This photo screams that he has a desire to get his head bashed in. Geez. Who sits on a horse tied to wall under a low roof over hang… sigh.

[goneriding24]

[QUOTE=trubandloki;7773160]
Laugh. Strange generalization of not thinking outside your own little world box.[/QUOTE]

My little world box includes quite a bit of the known world and every state in the Union, except HI (no roads happen to link it to the mainland) and AK. I’ve been in FL in the summer, PA also. South TX ain’t a piece of cake. Alabama and Arkansas, outside, during the summer, chaining down a load on my flatbed, around the 5pm mark. I’ve seen sweat but that sweat looked way overboard than “exercise” (if you call this that) sweat.

[trubandloki]

[QUOTE=goneriding24;7773350]
My little world box includes quite a bit of the known world and every state in the Union, except HI (no roads happen to link it to the mainland) and AK. I’ve been in FL in the summer, PA also. South TX ain’t a piece of cake. Alabama and Arkansas, outside, during the summer, chaining down a load on my flatbed, around the 5pm mark. I’ve seen sweat but that sweat looked way overboard than “exercise” (if you call this that) sweat.[/QUOTE]
You clearly missed the point.
As someone else said, it has nothing to do with the heat or location. Some people simply sweat far more than others under the same circumstances.

This might be far more sweat than you would make doing “exercise”. I can tell you for a fact that I would easily make this much sweat doing nothing but lunging my horse some days.
Some people sweat, others do not.

I think proclaiming he is so sweaty that he must have worked too hard is doing a fine job of missing that there is much better evidence of what is going on there than guessing how much this particular human sweats on any given day.

[Goldstar]

I just stumbled across this old thread and felt compelled to comment as I am familiar - unfortunately- with this trainer, I know two people who sent horses to him. He claimed to be able to “break a horse in 10 days” for 1000 bucks. My friend got his mustang back home, totally traumatized and a wreck under saddle. The other person got her young horse back with a blown out stifle, never came sound again. We stopped in once unannounced and found him roundpenning a mare in a steaming hot covered roundpen in the middle of the day in Florida summer heat. The horse was drenched in sweat and heaving. He stopped to talk to us…Left the horse for the 2 hours we were there, never even cooled the horse off or offered her water. I was horrified. My partner took her horse home imediately, but the damage to her horse had been done [the dammaged stifle]. Cruelty begins where skill ends…

[Greyscale]

Ugh… What about any of that would make anyone think that that is an appropriate training method?