Also I didn’t bump up the thread, don’t blame me, it was already on my main screen!
Senden, are you wishing that I phone you and lay out piece by piece of exactly what happened? Dredge up the old emails to Adam Ellis and Patric Saddlery regarding them telling me that Colleens account was not in good standing? Of which those emails I already copy and pasted to this forum? When I posted this forum it was an “what do I do the lady I gave a butt-ton of money to won’t return my phone calls and I don’t have my saddle yet” which turned into a revelation of oh-my-god this woman did nothing but lie to me.
I’m relaxing on the back porch of the house I’m animal sitting at lolling away the afternoon on the internet, so I’ve got time.
P.S. Have you read the whole forum? It might give you more insight into what actually happened and that in to extent was this a which hunt. More akin to turning over rocks to find rattle snake beneath.
Hi there, I found this thread, on line, not long ago and noticed your transaction problems were around the same time I had mine, with this company. I had a saddle, with her, for sale for a little over a year and hadn’t heard anything. Realizing it can take a while to sell some saddles, i didn’t call her earlier. When I called, I didn’t hear back for a bit so called back and left several messages. Started to get pretty annoyed. Long story short, my saddle was sold and issues were, finally, resolved. I had said some not so nice things and talked to a few friends but didn’t find out until, some time, after that there were very legitimate circumstances that were keeping her from doing her job during that time period. Overall, I would still do business with this company, if they’ll have me back, and recommend them to anyone seeking expertise on a good saddle fit.
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I had said some not so nice things and talked to a few friends but didn’t find out until, some time, after that there were very legitimate circumstances that were keeping her from doing her job during that time period. [/QUOTE]
There’s no excuse for somehow being able to sell saddles, but not somehow being able to pay the owners of those saddles the amount you owe them.
Take it as you will but I don’t think it’s right to judge and condemn someone without knowing all the facts. I know that Colleen has more help, now, and was going through a rough time, personally, during the period of the issues discussed, here.
Aaannnnd…another house guest pops up.
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Senden, are you wishing that I phone you and lay out piece by piece of exactly what happened? Dredge up the old emails to Adam Ellis and Patric Saddlery regarding them telling me that Colleens account was not in good standing? Of which those emails I already copy and pasted to this forum? When I posted this forum it was an “what do I do the lady I gave a butt-ton of money to won’t return my phone calls and I don’t have my saddle yet” which turned into a revelation of oh-my-god this woman did nothing but lie to me.
I’m relaxing on the back porch of the house I’m animal sitting at lolling away the afternoon on the internet, so I’ve got time.
P.S. Have you read the whole forum? It might give you more insight into what actually happened and that in to extent was this a which hunt. More akin to turning over rocks to find rattle snake beneath.[/QUOTE]
You didn’t read my post, did you? How do I know you are saying “true things”. this isn’t just you, people come on here all the time complaining.
So and so is a bad saddle fitter
Why?
because I said so
documentation please?
read the thread.
no, that is not documentation. that is a horse BB
Sure hope this is true, otherwise you did a hell of a lot of damage to her reputation. I have my own collection of bad saddle fitters, but you know? I let others judge.
yes, I would like to call you and talk should I need to use her. I want to see what is real. I can then decide if you are a bad client and/or she is a bad fitter. I don’t have any way of gauging that from here. (again, using your case as an example.)
How many times have we gotten the OTHER story? from the ex, the seller/buyer, the friend.
Looks different from the other side.
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You didn’t read my post, did you? How do I know you are saying “true things”. this isn’t just you, people come on here all the time complaining.
So and so is a bad saddle fitter
Why?
because I said so
documentation please?
read the thread.
no, that is not documentation. that is a horse BB
Sure hope this is true, otherwise you did a hell of a lot of damage to her reputation. I have my own collection of bad saddle fitters, but you know? I let others judge.
yes, I would like to call you and talk should I need to use her. I want to see what is real. I can then decide if you are a bad client and/or she is a bad fitter. I don’t have any way of gauging that from here. (again, using your case as an example.)
How many times have we gotten the OTHER story? from the ex, the seller/buyer, the friend.
Looks different from the other side.[/QUOTE]
I did read your post, and from what I gathered, It seemed you were completely disregarding everything listed here, because I (or anyone) could be a liar. And it’s true, I certainly could be!
I could be wrong due to my personal involvement, but if I thought about what was brought forth due to this thread- I would look at the post by Colleen on her FB page as something quite curious. It collides with the timeline of this thread, and in my interpretation it did not address the suspicions and accusations on this thread. I found it to be more of a bandaid for worried people- it didn’t explain that lies were flying around the internet about her. And once there was a lot of traffic on it, she finally returned my phone calls. She asked me to remove the thread. I did not.
She had the opportunity to give her other story, and failed to quash the ‘rumors’, potentially because they were more than rumors.
I encourage you to contact Adam Ellis Saddlery, and Patrick Saddlery to ask about her previous and current account standings if you want to really know. They are reputable. Adam Ellis actually commented on this forum, if we can believe that it is him.
And if you ever think about using Colleen, and you really want to talk about my experience with her over the phone, we can figure something out. She offers really beautiful saddles.
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I did read your post, and from what I gathered, It seemed you were completely disregarding everything listed here, because I (or anyone) could be a liar. And it’s true, I certainly could be!
I could be wrong due to my personal involvement, but if I thought about what was brought forth due to this thread- I would look at the post by Colleen on her FB page as something quite curious. It collides with the timeline of this thread, and in my interpretation it did not address the suspicions and accusations on this thread. I found it to be more of a bandaid for worried people- it didn’t explain that lies were flying around the internet about her. And once there was a lot of traffic on it, she finally returned my phone calls. She asked me to remove the thread. I did not.
She had the opportunity to give her other story, and failed to quash the ‘rumors’, potentially because they were more than rumors.
I encourage you to contact Adam Ellis Saddlery, and Patrick Saddlery to ask about her previous and current account standings if you want to really know. They are reputable. Adam Ellis actually commented on this forum, if we can believe that it is him.
And if you ever think about using Colleen, and you really want to talk about my experience with her over the phone, we can figure something out. She offers really beautiful saddles.[/QUOTE]
Don’t assume so much, please.
And yes I see you saw my point.
It would be nice of you to honor her wishes to remove this thread. It appears she tried to work things out.
have you heard the advice “don’t complain, don’t explain” when faced with internet or media rumors? think about the stars that engage and flair up situations.
It takes two to play, she didn’t want to play. I can’t blame her.
I can’t say what her FB posts mean, nor can you. This is exactly what annoys me about these threads. sure, it is good to have a head’s up. But we know many people who have had a good experience. that creates this issue with sorting out the value of these stores. Who do you believe?
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Aaannnnd…another house guest pops up.[/QUOTE]
Colleen wanted this deleted, I think its weird how it keeps poping back up. Yes I’m commented on it because this illustrates a good point about BBs and how negitive reivews can really impact someone’s livelyhood.
I’m also not bumping it back up.
I think the mods should delete, its the respectful thing to do.
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Colleen wanted this deleted, I think its weird how it keeps poping back up. Yes I’m commented on it because this illustrates a good point about BBs and how negitive reivews can really impact someone’s livelyhood.
I’m also not bumping it back up.
I think the mods should delete, its the respectful thing to do.[/QUOTE]
Of course she wanted it deleted. Whether or not she was having personal problems at the time is, unfortunately, irrelevant to how the customers felt they were treated.
This wasn’t a case of one customer having problems, but rather of several.
While the odd negative review would not keep me from purchasing from someone, I would like to know going into the situation what to watch out for. Boards like this one are very useful when trying to figure out whom to purchase from.
For the record, I wouldn’t purchase a custom saddle from anyone as my horses are just fine being fitted off the rack. I have a saddle fitter that I like and trust, and whom I’ve worked with for nearly 2 decades.
I also would not buy a custom saddle from a saddle fitter (or a manufacturer’s rep) as I think there is an inherent conflict of interest. I prefer to have my saddles evaluated by an independent fitter.
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Take it as you will but I don’t think it’s right to judge and condemn someone without knowing all the facts. I know that Colleen has more help, now, and was going through a rough time, personally, during the period of the issues discussed, here.[/QUOTE]
Then close your business and notify your customers.
Don’t hide until the cops are called to get the money you owe. That’s bad business, no matter what “rough time” you’re going through “personally.”
And I say that as a business owner and service provider.
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[You bought a saddle from Custom Saddlery. Upon arrival, it didn’t fit your horse. This has nothing to do with Colleen.]
Response: The day I received my saddle from Custom Saddlery and tried to ride in it, it rocked around on his back. Colleen happened to be at the barn. I do respect her saddle fitting ability and asked her to look at the saddle on my horse. The CS fitter insisted it was going to fit perfectly “out of the box” and I was having a hard time scheduling her to come out. Colleen declared it to be a tree that would NEVER EVER fit my horse. She said “it’s a thoroughbred tree and no fitter will be able to fit that to you horse.” I followed Colleen’s advice which was to return it during the 10 day trial and just eat my loss of the deposit. She then pitched me on her saddle with the cob tree which better suited my horse and I ordered it.
[Her job is to sell saddles. Sounds like she does a good job of that. You were happy with your existing Link. The cost and age are irrelevant details. You said you got caught up in the new saddles. That’s on you.] Do you work for Advanced Saddle Fit? Are you Colleen?
[You losing the deposit on the Custom Saddlery saddle was your decision, not hers. I don’t understand how you can say Colleen is responsible for that.]
Response: The CS fitter offered to sell my saddle for the full price so I wouldn’t take a loss. Colleen who was riding in my car at the time, poo poo’d that idea and just said return it and take the hit. I may be a fool, but I did follow that advice as if I had kept the CS past the 10 days, my whole $4500 would have been tied up and I wouldn’t have been able to buy another saddle. I’m not blaming Colleen for that decision, but she did strongly persuade me that the CS saddle was totally wrong and in fact detrimental to my horse. He needed a cob or hoop tree, and never a thoroughbred tree.
[Were your specifications for the ATV written down? Did the written order match the delivered product? Colleen offers a full refund or to re-make your custom saddle. I don’t see a problem with that offer. You chose to have her re-make it.]
Response: The specifications for the saddle I ordered from Colleen were written on a saddle order, as well as the conditions of the sale. NO WHERE WAS A RESTOCKING FEE NOTED. I’M A CRIMINAL PARALEGAL AND THAT ALONE IS AN UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE TRADE PRACTICE UNDER Mass. Gen. Laws, Ch. 93A. (Okay?!!)
The saddle came in completely different from the order, different leather, different trim and missing the patent leather. In anticipation of the saddle arriving, I had shipped my Link off to its new buyer, so was without a saddle with a clinic coming up.
Colleen said she’d refund my money or leave this one as a loaner while she ordered the correct one.
[How you sell your Link is none of Colleen’s business. I think it was out of bounds for you two to discuss whom Colleen will or won’t sell a saddle to. A barn mate got caught up in the shiny new saddles, just like you did. Again, sounds like Colleen does her job well. ;)]
Response: (This certainly sounds like you are Colleen and I’m enjoying cross examining you.)
My barnmate wanted my Link. Colleen was told she wanted my Link and Colleen told me that she wouldn’t interfere in the sale of my Link. She did, in fact, as my friend told me, trash the Schleese saddles to my friend and proceeded to sell her a saddle. That’s fine, Schleese saddles have a top reputation and I sold it for more money within a week anyway. But it goes to her two faced methods of doing business.
[You rode in the loaner for three days. What did you ride in the next couple of weeks? It sounds like the loaner. ]
Response: My agreement with Colleen was the new order was on hold and that I would try to make adjustments to ride in the loaner without pain, by doing stretches. I have many texts and emails to that effect. And Colleen had $4025 of my money. She also asked me to let another customer use the loaner at the same time, so I was sharing that “loaner”. I barely rode in it because I was crippled from it. After twenty minutes I couldn’t dismount or put my weight over my left hip. I ride 6 or 7 days a week and have had 7 custom saddles and have never experienced anything like this. I also bought another used Black Country saddle during this time to get by with since I couldn’t ride in the loaner without pain.
[Did the contract state a restocking fee? It doesn’t matter how or what you think the restocking is applied to. It could be for the first saddle/loaner that wasn’t to your specifications, the leather, the time spent communicating with the customer, etc. I don’t see how that is dishonest. It is similar to the non-refundable deposit from Custom Saddlery.]
Response: No!!! The contract does not state a restocking fee, and therefore her attempt to contrive a restocking fee out of wholecloth is an unfair and deceptive trade practice.
Secondly the first saddle did not come in “as ordered” which the contract says it has to be delivered “as ordered”. The fact that she decided to leave it for me to use as a “loaner” does not mean that I have to pay a restocking fee for a saddle that I didn’t order, essentially…even if she had stated there were a restocking fee. But she’s [edit] out of luck because her contract doesn’t have those provisions. (But I’ll bet they will now since I was in Court with her today! And The Magistrate told her that.)
[You can’t say if the second ATV saddle was or was not in production. It doesn’t matter. If she has a 20% restocking fee you agreed to when you placed your order, then that is the cost of doing business. This is exactly like the nonrefundable deposit you agreed to with Custom Saddlery. Losing that deposit was your decision, not Colleen’s. I’m kinda gobsmacked you keep putting that on Colleen. You are an adult who makes their own purchase decisions. If the purchase agreement stated the restocking fee, then you agreed to it. If there was never any restocking fee stated, maybe you could argue that. I think that argument is hindered by your decision to keep the loaner for several weeks.]
Response: Who [edit] are you anyway? You are out of line. And you should read all the complaints about Colleen on Chronicle. I bought a saddle from her in 2005 and had no problems, but she has inferior saddles now because Black Country and Albion kicked her to the curb and she’s hustling.
She had no right to withhold that restocking fee. It was illegal and again, my dear, an unfair and deceptive trade practice. (EDIT NOTE: And the Court agreed with me!!!)
[I think the “ruin my life” melodramatic statement is what spurred me to post on this thread. I truly have no dog in this fight. I’m just stunned at the lack of personal responsibility.]
Response: You sound like Colleen, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you are!
I have purchased a Black Country built on the tree I need and have never had a moment’s pain, for either myself or my horse. And no Colleen headaches either.
My experience with Colleen (and many people that I know) was that you could get a saddle from her, but you’d never get her back for follow up. But I’ll give her that she knows quite a lot about saddle fitting, but her business practices are shady. I’ve talked and I mean talked NUMEROUS times with one of her suppliers in England. And confirmed all that I’ve listed above about how she does business. She doesn’t pay them and then lies to her clients that the saddle maker is holding up the production. She’s a piece of work and I’m glad to wash my hands of her.
Response: I was in Small Claims today with her and will see this to its conclusion. EDIT NOTE - 9/29/16 - And I received a Judgment for the Plaintiff! The Court agreed with me. Colleen is a blatant liar and the Magistrate saw through her lies. She went so far as to lie that the second saddle was built when I know full well it never was. I’m well rid if this woman. Thank God I can put this behind me.
You certainly seem to have a dog in this fight. Or just one of those people on the internet looking for a fight.
For those of you thinking about dealing with this woman - CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!
Look it up!
The saddle I’ve had with this horse was a Schleese Link. It did okay on him and while I AM in a dispute with Colleen about her business practices, I will give it to her that she is an expert fitter. She suggested a cob tree for him. The problem is (truthfully) her saddles are made by some freelancers in England and are not NAME brands. Détente is her own brand - this I was toldl by Adam Ellis himself. Anyway, the cob tree was great for my horse, but built on the saddle she recommended to me, it spread my hips to the point of extreme pain. Her answer was that I had a hard to fit horse, that the best I could hope for would be for the horse to be comfortable and that I, the rider, would have to suck it up. I tried doing stretches because I wanted my horse in the optimum tree for him, but this saddle was pure hell and just an awful saddle. I rode very little in in and couldn’t even dismount after 15 minutes, the pain in my left hip was so bad.
I’ve since purchased a Black Country monoflap built on a hoop (cob) tree. Never a moments pain and we’re both happy. Colleen knew that there were other solutions for me, but she didn’t want to lose the sale so was trying to push these saddles on me. You ride in a demo for all of 10 minutes, you won’t know if you are going to start having hip pain until you’ve had a longer ride in in, maybe a couple of days. This is what happened to me. I literally stopped riding because of it. Then I realized - wait a minute…I’ve had horses all my life and probably 7 custom high end saddles. This is ridiculous. There had to be a compromise between my comfort and my horses. My Link was fine, but I wanted the optimum tree for my guy and I got that in the Black Country now.
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[You bought a saddle from Custom Saddlery. Upon arrival, it didn’t fit your horse. This has nothing to do with Colleen.]
The day I received my saddle from Custom Saddlery and tried to ride in it, it rocked around on his back. Colleen happened to be at the barn. I do respect her saddle fitting ability and asked her to look at the saddle on my horse. The CS fitter insisted it was going to fit perfectly “out of the box” and I was having a hard time scheduling her to come out. Colleen declared it to be a tree that would NEVER EVER fit my horse. She said “it’s a thoroughbred tree and no fitter will be able to fit that to you horse.” I followed Colleen’s advice which was to return it during the 10 day trial and just eat my loss of the deposit. She then pitched me on her saddle with the cob tree which better suited my horse and I ordered it.
[Her job is to sell saddles. Sounds like she does a good job of that. You were happy with your existing Link. The cost and age are irrelevant details. You said you got caught up in the new saddles. That’s on you.] Do you work for Advanced Saddle Fit? Are you Colleen?
[You losing the deposit on the Custom Saddlery saddle was your decision, not hers. I don’t understand how you can say Colleen is responsible for that.]
The CS fitter offered to sell my saddle for the full price so I wouldn’t take a loss. Colleen who was riding in my car at the time, poo poo’d that idea and just said return it and take the hit. I may be a fool, but I did follow that advice as if I had kept the CS past the 10 days, my whole $4500 would have been tied up and I wouldn’t have been able to buy another saddle. I’m not blaming Colleen for that decision, but she did strongly persuade me that the CS saddle was totally wrong and in fact detrimental to my horse. He needed a cob or hoop tree, and never a thoroughbred tree.
[Were your specifications for the ATV written down? Did the written order match the delivered product? Colleen offers a full refund or to re-make your custom saddle. I don’t see a problem with that offer. You chose to have her re-make it.]
The specifications for the saddle I ordered from Colleen were written on a saddle order, as well as the conditions of the sale. NO WHERE WAS A RESTOCKING FEE NOTED. I’M A CRIMINAL PARALEGAL AND THAT ALONE IS AN UNFAIR AND DECEPTIVE TRADE PRACTICE UNDER Mass. Gen. Laws, Ch. 93A. (Okay?!!)
The saddle came in completely different from the order, different leather, different trim and missing the patent leather. In anticipation of the saddle arriving, I had shipped my Link off to its new buyer, so was without a saddle with a clinic coming up.
Colleen said she’d refund my money or leave this one as a loaner while she ordered the correct one.
[How you sell your Link is none of Colleen’s business. I think it was out of bounds for you two to discuss whom Colleen will or won’t sell a saddle to. A barn mate got caught up in the shiny new saddles, just like you did. Again, sounds like Colleen does her job well. ;)]
This certainly sounds like you are Colleen and I’m enjoying cross examining you.
My barnmate wanted my Link. Colleen was told she wanted my Link and Colleen told me that she wouldn’t interfere in the sale of my Link. She did, in fact, as my friend told me, trash the Schleese saddles to my friend and proceeded to sell her a saddle. That’s fine, Schleese saddles have a top reputation and I sold it for more money within a week anyway. But it goes to her two faced methods of doing business.
[You rode in the loaner for three days. What did you ride in the next couple of weeks? It sounds like the loaner. ]
My agreement with Colleen was the new order was on hold and that I would try to make adjustments to ride in the loaner without pain, by doing stretches. I have many texts and emails to that effect. And Colleen had $4015 of my money. She also asked me to let another customer use the loaner at the same time, so I was sharing that “loaner”. I barely rode in it because I was crippled from it. After twenty minutes I couldn’t dismount or put my weight over my left hip. I ride 6 or 7 days a week and have had 7 custom saddles and have never experienced anything like this.
I have since learned that these saddles are made under Colleen’s brand by some freelancer’s in England. I’ve also communicated numerous times with two of her suppliers who have said without hesitation that she’s a nightmare to deal with. They are the ones that told me that Détente is her brand…a nothing brand. Good luck selling those down the line. They also said they’d like to cut her lose. And that she doesn’t pay her bills. I believe she has a Ponzi scam going. Some of the people she sold to in our barn waited 5 or 6 months or more for their saddles to come in.
[Did the contract state a restocking fee? It doesn’t matter how or what you think the restocking is applied to. It could be for the first saddle/loaner that wasn’t to your specifications, the leather, the time spent communicating with the customer, etc. I don’t see how that is dishonest. It is similar to the non-refundable deposit from Custom Saddlery.]
The contract does not state a restocking fee, and therefore her attempt to contrive a restocking fee out of wholecloth is an unfair and deceptive trade practice.
Secondly the first saddle did not come in “as ordered” which the contract says it has to be delivered “as ordered”. The fact that she decided to leave it for me to use as a “loaner” does not mean that I have to pay a restocking fee for a saddle that I didn’t order, essentially…even if she had stated there were a restocking fee. But she’s shit out of luck because her contact doesn’t have those provisions. (But bet they will now since I was in Court with her today! And The Magistrate told her that.)
You can’t say if the second ATV saddle was or was not in production. It doesn’t matter. If she has a 20% restocking fee you agreed to when you placed your order, then that is the cost of doing business. This is exactly like the nonrefundable deposit you agreed to with Custom Saddlery. Losing that deposit was your decision, not Colleen’s. I’m kinda gobsmacked you keep putting that on Colleen. You are an adult who makes their own purchase decisions. If the purchase agreement stated the restocking fee, then you agreed to it. If there was never any restocking fee stated, maybe you could argue that. I think that argument is hindered by your decision to keep the loaner for several weeks.
Who the fuck are you anyway? You are out of line. And you should read all the complaints about Colleen on Chronical. I bought a saddle from her in 2005 and had no problems, but she has inferior saddles now because Black Country and Albion kicked her to the curb and she’s hustling.
She had no right withholding that restocking fee. It was illegal and again, my dear, an unfair and deceptive trade practice.
I think the “ruin my life” melodramatic statement is what spurred me to post on this thread. I truly have no dog in this fight. I’m just stunned at the lack of personal responsibility.
You sound like Colleen, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you are.
I have purchased a Black Country built on the tree I need and have never had a moments pain, for either myself or my horse. And no Colleen headaches either.
My experience with Colleen (and many people that I know) was that you could get a saddle from her, but you’d never get her back for follow up. But I’ll give her that she knows quite a lot about saddle fitting, but her business practices are shady. I’ve talked and I mean talked NUMEROUS times with one of her suppliers in England. And confirmed all that I’ve listed above about how she does business. She doesn’t pay them and then lies to her clients that the saddle maker is holding up the production. She’s a piece of work and I’m glad to wash my hands of her.
I was in Small Claims today with her and will see this to its conclusion.
You certainly seem to have a dog in this fight. Or just one of those people on the internet looking for a fight.
Do you still have the Link? A bareback pad? Ride on.:)[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spanish_DQ;8854427]The saddle I’ve had with this horse was a Schleese Link. It did okay on him and while I AM in a dispute with Colleen about her business practices, I will give it to her that she is an expert fitter. She suggested a cob tree for him. The problem is (truthfully) her saddles are made by some freelancers in England and are not NAME brands. Détente is her own brand - this I was toldl by Adam Ellis himself. Anyway, the cob tree was great for my horse, but built on the saddle she recommended to me, it spread my hips to the point of extreme pain. Her answer was that I had a hard to fit horse, that the best I could hope for would be for the horse to be comfortable and that I, the rider, would have to suck it up. I tried doing stretches because I wanted my horse in the optimum tree for him, but this saddle was pure hell and just an awful saddle. I rode very little in in and couldn’t even dismount after 15 minutes, the pain in my left hip was so bad.
I’ve since purchased a Black Country monoflap built on a hoop (cob) tree. Never a moments pain and we’re both happy. Colleen knew that there were other solutions for me, but she didn’t want to lose the sale so was trying to push these saddles on me. You ride in a demo for all of 10 minutes, you won’t know if you are going to start having hip pain until you’ve had a longer ride in in, maybe a couple of days. This is what happened to me. I literally stopped riding because of it. Then I realized - wait a minute…I’ve had horses all my life and probably 7 custom high end saddles. This is ridiculous. There had to be a compromise between my comfort and my horses. My Link was fine, but I wanted the optimum tree for my guy and I got that in the Black Country now.[/QUOTE]
For posterity, and because I cannot make sense of either post. So maybe seeing them together will help?
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For posterity, and because I cannot make sense of either post. So maybe seeing them together will help?
SpanishDQ is responding to Bicoastal’s post (poorly, admittedly, using brackets - sometimes - instead of actual quotes), #243 on this thread.
sorry about late response as I don’t visit this site too much. The first saddle was built on a cob tree which was flat and wide. Suite my horse perfectly but with the twin flaps it hurt my hips like hell. These saddles are Colleen’s own brand and God knows who is making them, but the design hurt me. You are right that you can’t get a narrow twist on a wide tree. BUT I have bought the Black Country Vinici X which is the hoop tree and a monoflap. It is beautiful and fits him perfectly. He’s happy and I’ve never had a second’s pain riding in it. It gives me the feeling of a narrow twist but a more open seat. I wish I’d just gone for this to begin with.
Years ago, I’d bought from Colleen, back in 2005, and although I got my saddle in a reasonable amount of time, as others have pointed out, she just disappears after that and you can’t even get her to call you back for refittings.
But this experience really takes the cake. [edit]
JUDGMENT AWARDED IN MY FAVOR!!!
Apparently the Court agreed with me - I just received Judgment for the Plaintiff against Colleen Meyer dba Advanced Saddle Fit, which I fully intend to execute.
I’m glad I pursued this matter in the courts to its rightful conclusion. She lied in front of the Magistrate and clearly he saw through her lies.
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you really should send a copy of the judgment to Rate My Horse Pro for their civil court page.
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Apparently the Court agreed with me - I just received Judgment for the Plaintiff against Colleen Meyer dba Advanced Saddle Fit, which I fully intend to execute.
I’m glad I pursued this matter in the courts to its rightful conclusion. She lied in front of the Magistrate and clearly he saw through her lies.[/QUOTE]
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Apparently the Court agreed with me - I just received Judgment for the Plaintiff against Colleen Meyer dba Advanced Saddle Fit, which I fully intend to execute.
I’m glad I pursued this matter in the courts to its rightful conclusion. She lied in front of the Magistrate and clearly he saw through her lies.[/QUOTE]
Was she required to pay up then and there? Or do you have to wait 30 days?
