AK auction lot #1

Well hoping she actually ends up in a good home then

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I’m in the auction business; this is a known tactic and it’s very shady. I don’t want to cast aspersions on any business but that’s a huge red flag to me in the industry.

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Yeah it seems really weird that it happened at the last second + over half of what the highest bid was

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It’s AK’s auction. I expect nothing less than sketchy.

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Also sus that she doesn’t appear to exist under that name in USEF.

I hope she finds a soft landing.

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Bing bing bing is correct.

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You can call Andy and ask if perhaps that bid fell through and he would take an offer. I am not far and am happy to pick her up and find her somewhere short term to hang out if you don’t want to board her there until you can pick up :slight_smile:

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We never bid, decided to hold off due to it being sketchy and a short period of time

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So I guess being banned from sport for 10 years doesn’t prevent him from still being in the sport. How does he prepare these horses for sale? If someone else shows them, aren’t they still considered “involved” with AK? I’m confused.

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Being banned from recognized sports in no way means you can not still do sports.

I can not see how selling horses at auction would be banned.

Disclaimer - I am in no way saying I think this person should not be banned or be allowed to do evil things or anything.

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To me it looks like he just runs the auction and is not involved with the horses. I could be wrong but that’s the impression I got

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Ok, so he just runs the auction part but isn’t training or working the auction horses? Well, I guess that makes sense in a way. After all, he probably does still have to make a living. Not that I am saying anything other than that. I am not a fan of his behavior.

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He is training the auction horses. Check out his instagram. He’s riding and the farm doesn’t look too shabby.

While some of the auction horses are located at his farm, not all of them are. It says in each lot description where the horse is located. I know I saw New Jersey, Missouri, Florida, and Maryland among the locations in a very quick glance

And actually, a quick look through his Instagram doesn’t show any of the auction horses as being at his farm. All the posts about this auction are photos from shows or other locations, with just a note saying when bidding is open.

Can you explain? I agree it’s sketchy but I’m curious about the particulars of the sketchiness?

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I think I found her on USEF.
Quinny Z 2004 bay warm blood mare

5389967 - QUINNY Z

USEF doesn’t have her breeding listed.

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It’s called shill bidding. Essentially sellers will list and item with no reserve hoping to get a lot of interest, but when the bid doesn’t reach the amount they want they bid on their own listing, artificially upping the bid. It’s illegal but hard to enforce.
The reason this made me think that this was a shill bid was the huge jump. No regular person would bid 2x the price out of nowhere, a minute before the auction ends. Thats nonsensical.

I would not be surprised if we see her for sale again, somewhere else, or even back on the same site.

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I sent an email, I’ll update with what is said.

If it’s another owner doing the shill bid Andy (or whoever runs the site) may not actually be aware it happened. I am not sure who owns the mare.

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Thanks for the research!

Wow, one 1.30m class with 33 faults with an amateur GP rider…not technically false advertising but jeez, hardly what I would advertise to people is “an amateur friendly 1.30 horse”.

That to me is a horse going at 1.30…

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