AK auction lot #1

[Elouise]

So I went to HorseTelex. From what I can tell (and I am not an expert, but love to search stuff like this), the dam, Ilona (a KWPN), had two foals that year 2004 from Quinar. One named Quinny (no Z on that one) and another by the name of Quiny Z. Both registered Zangershide. Maybe one was by embryo transfer?
The Quinny one has a record to 1.35 (according to Horse Telex). The Quiny Z had foals in 2021 (McSteamy) and 2023 (Fins Up) but no record next to her name. (They usually only post notable performances like above 1.30.)

So who know if anything we are reading is correct on that horse, other than she is bred well.

[Bristol_Bay]

I think this is her. There are other videos posted by this same YouTube account.

Quiny (Quinar x Voltaire) - Derby Hunter in Tryon

She’s lovely.

How can it be that none of her owners thought to retire her?

[Railbird]

Sad, right? You’d hope that any of the people who are on her long long usef record would hear she was 20 and for sale to the highest bidder to anyone who wants to roll the dice to try to get one more baby out of her would step in, but sadly I know from experience a lot of people don’t think that way

[StormyDay]

As of 6:30 no response. I’d call but I can’t find a number on the site.

[vxf111]

Maybe they have no clue? I don’t think AK’s auctions are so well followed that everyone in the horse community is aware of what horse is selling.

[Alterrain]

@StormyDay

I’d call but I can’t find a number on the site.

I’m sure I have it, let me look through my phone. I bid a year ago or so on one and I’m pretty sure he called me to confirm something. (I ended up not winning)

ETA: sent you his number in PM

[Railbird]

Right I mean I doubt that they know, but my experience with Poofy was that even when people DO find these things out, a surprising number DGAF.

[libgrrl]

I don’t think that is the same mare. Conformation photo showed a low right hind sock too.

[Bristol_Bay]

This one?

Quinny - Quinar (Quidam de Revel x Voltaire) 11 years old

[vxf111]

@Railbird

even when people DO find these things out, a surprising number DGAF

You’re not wrong

[Zlotych]

@StormyDay

I’m in the auction business; this is a known tactic and it’s very shady. I don’t want to cast aspersions on any business but that’s a huge red flag to me in the industry.

Common occurrence. The other sporthorse auction company does not discourage it.

[Angela_Freda]

@Elouise

the dam, Ilona (a KWPN

Do you know breeding on Ilona?

[dags]

@Angela_Freda

Do you know breeding on Ilona?

I believe this is the mare: https://www.horsetelex.com/horses/pedigree/2482229/quiny-z

[Angela_Freda]

Thanks, not sure that’s the horse I knew, but thanks

[enjoytheride]

While shill bidding could be an option, it’s unlikely. The horse didn’t even sell for $1,000. It’s entirely possible someone wanted the horse and just put in their max bid to be done with it. I have seen it done plenty of times, it’s not like their max big was a lot and they only increased it by $300. It’s not like they went from $360 to $3500 or something.

The winning bid was $768, that’s below meat prices and well below the value of this horse if she’s broodmare sound. People pay more for aged lame grade horses. If the seller was having someone shill bid they would have put in more.

[enjoytheride]

@kenyarider

Ok, so he just runs the auction part but isn’t training or working the auction horses? Well, I guess that makes sense in a way. After all, he probably does still have to make a living. Not that I am saying anything other than that. I am not a fan of his behavior.

He runs the auction as well as rides and trains the horses. He’s not banned from riding, that is not a thing (although in some cases it should be).

[candyappy]

@libgrrl

I don’t think that is the same mare. Conformation photo showed a low right hind sock too.

I thought the same thing but the horse is wearing short boot things to protect her fetlocks which cover the pasterns. You can see white on both her back legs if you watch her going.

[LSBC]

It looks like a lot of the horses in the auction didn’t meet reserve either.

[SpicyPRE]

I hope you get info on the mare!